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05/17/2008 18:01
Hurtingbadly
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Would there have been any one thing that a loved one could have done to help you get better during one of your episodes. When I was sick my husband said there were so many things he would have done differently. He never told me what they were so I dont know what they were. Now the tables are turned and he is BP but in denial. Refuses to believe it. His manic episode destroyed us completely. The usual. He wants a divorce, lost all the money (banckrupcy) affair. You name it he did it. Now he is starting depression. I have no help as his friends do not believe me or the dr.

Is there anything I can do to help him realize that he is ill. He also lives 5 hours away and only comes up 2 days a month. Thats how bad it is.

If someone could have done something different for you what would it have been. Was there a time where you wish they had had you put into an er for obervation? Hind site can be a wonderful thing for another person to learn from.

Thanks, getting very worried as when he was depressed before it was bad, now he will have to deal with the guilt of all the damage that has been caused.

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05/17/2008 18:56
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Boy, hurtingbadly, I sure wish I could help you. There is a group called Bipolar in the Family...there are some great people there who have helped their loved ones get through some difficult times...

Of course, we are here for you too. Hindsight is just that...we can always look back and think "i wish I would have done something differently".

It seems odd that his friends and his doctor do not see what you see. Of course, you know him well.

How are you doing with your illness?? Are you taking care of yourself?

"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/17/2008 19:35
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I have BP too. I have been fine for 3 yrs. Thats why it is so hard to see him sick and not see it. We just went through all of this 5yrs ago. His dr, is the one who DX him. He just refuses to believe him. The dr. gave him Zoloft b/c he thought he was depressed. Thats was last aug. His manic episode seems to have ended about 4-6 weeks ago.He never went back to normal him. He is now numb. He said he would get a 2nd opinion about 2 months ago ( lots of convincing)but his friend talked him out of it. Told him he was fine and just "reminds" him that he is the way he is b/c he doesnt love me. So he does all these bad things to punish me as a bad wife who made him miserable. He lives with this one particular friend I was talking about and he sees him everyday so his influence is the main one. When he is here, he has started being nice to me . Mania is over from what I can tell.

Thats why I was wondering if there was something I could do. I now regret not freezing the credit cards, and I also wish I had had him taken in for observation. He cant hate me anymore then he already does. Its those type of things I am looking for. What kind of help would someone want but couldnt ask for.



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05/17/2008 19:42
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I went back and re-read your posts...Hurtingbadly...boy, he really needs some help....I had told someone else in another post to make sure that the credit cards and bank accounts were secure...I don't think it was you. That is always such an unfortunate aftereffect of mania is the spending that gets out of control.

You had asked for help in maybe having hindsight and I am thinking one of the things might be to keep money separate. And check your credit rating if there are any new cards opened up jointly. if they are and you haven't approved them...call the credit card company and close them. And you have the right to contact the credit bureau and the credit card companies and close any accounts. If he wants a credit card he can open one up himself. Any debt unfortunately, he occurrs while you are married may be under your name also...contact an attorney for advise on this situation. It wouldn't hurt anything, and the attorney may have some good advice.

If you think he needs to go to the emergency room they will ask two questions...is he a danger to himself? Is he a danger to others? that seems to be the criteria unless you can convince his doctor he needs to go for help. And since you said the doctor and his friends don't see his problems you are stuck.

Not much you can do but, just wait and see....

Post edited by: norma, at: 05/17/2008 21:45

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05/17/2008 21:24
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To late with the credit cards. We are in themiddle of filing banckrupcy. He gives me all the money and I dont worry about that anymore. It is just everything else. I mean it hrts that my credit is ruined. I mean destroyed. I do know that if he hits depression it will hit him like a ton of bricks. He grew up on welfare so we were always careful about money. that is what he wanted. So for 17yrs we worked our but off to have excelant credit. I mean almost perfect credit. N ow it gone. I would rather lose the houase the cars and everything then lose my husband. I want him to come home and get better so much but he wont. He works down there so to him he has no reason to be here. Sorry just having a very strange night. I havent felt like this since Mania was full blown.

Oh his dr did DX BP after the Zoloft sent him to mania. He refuses to believe him. His friend told him that it was me and that he wasnt BP. The dr. tried everyhting he could to get my husband back into the office. That is why I suggested to my husband to get a 2nd opinion. I thought if he was uncomfortable with this dr. DX maybe having a 2nd opinion would help him see that he was sick. I mean how many DR do you have to go through that say the same thing. Who knows maybe it will work one day. Just tired. I want all this to end.

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05/18/2008 07:49
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I know how much it hurts to watch someone you love destroy themselves (my husband is bipolar)- and you know even better than me what your husband must be feeling right now, since you struggle with BP too.

I'm sure he is overly aware of what he has done, the pain his actions have caused, but it sounds like he's in denial. I know it hurts to be apart from him, but it may be the best thing for you right now. If he doesn't want to seek help, he will only continue to hurt you more if he's around.

I agree with norma about keeping your accounts separate from now on, so that this won't happen again.

As much as it hurts, you may have to let him go. I don't mean give up on him, or stop loving him. (and I'm sure you know this) But it only causes more pain to enmesh yourself in the problems of a loved one that will not help themselves. I think you need to start taking better care of yourself, regardless of what your husband is doing. You deserve to be happy.


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