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10/07/2007 20:58
jahin_me
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vjnunez wrote:

i am just wondering if there is anyone out there who has experienced their bipolar spouse having an affair or close to it and how they handled the situation? also, if there is anyone who IS bipolar and has done this to their spouse, could you help me understand why and what was going through your mind when you were doing these things. my husband is starting to do this and says he doesn't know why, but that he doesn't love me anymore. also, he has no remorse for hurting me over and over again. is this something that can come along with being bipolar? also, when they/you started their/your meds did that change their/your need to turn to someone else, and were you remorseful for the things you had put your spouse through? PLEASE HELP-i am new to this and have to idea where to turn.

I don't think being bipolar has to do with adultery necessarily. Though, when someone is psychotic they often do things they wouldn't normally do. But when I have been psychotic, there is still a part of me that is true to who I am. I am an honest person who doesn't cheat. I find it more honorable to tell the truth. And in fact, I am often more honest when I have been psychotic, which hasn't always turned out for the best. So, to make a long answer shorter. No, cheating isn't a bipolar thing. Bipolar can intensify things in our personality that were already there. At least this is my opinion.

Most importantly though, it sounds like your allowing this person to treat you like dirt. I don't want to be harsh, but that is pathological. It might not be bipolar, but it's a lack of regard for the self. It's disrespect of the self, or self abuse. Please don't do that to yourself. Please don't allow this guy to waste any more of your precious time. Put the guy in the hospital if need be to keep him safe and then say goodbye.

Ones someone betrays your trust and love things will never be the same. Maybe things will work out down the road.

I think that your husband is a creepy womanizing fool who happens to be bipolar. But I doubt it's the bipolar per se.

You sound like a really caring, honest, kind hearted soul who deserves better than to be abused. As such, to be true and kind to yourself, don't indulge in the drama, and get away from this guy. The best of wishes,

J

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10/07/2007 21:16
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Dear Viva,

There's something which we sometimes forget as we share in this forum. That is that we are all different each of us may be diagnosised with bipolar, but the severity differs in each of us. Some may be able to remain true for their whole lives, others may mentally cheat, others may have a fling or two, but there are those who do more than that. Each one is an individual. Their manic episodes vary.

I do not believe in disposing of people, but I do know we have to take care of ourselves. Self pontification never helps anyone so forgive me if I've strayed into that area in my earlier posts.

I hope you find the support and answers you need to make wise decisions for yourself and your loved ones.

God Bless,

msbimbo

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10/13/2007 03:56
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my husband and i have been together for 12 yrs and married for 8 yrs. When he is "normal" he is the best husband in the world, wouldnt trade him for the world. But of course bp has a different side to it and my husband has had 2 affairs both while he was manic. When he becomes manic he becomes a different person all together. First thing that happens when he starts a manic is he kicks me out, first thing that happens when he comes down is he runs back to me and only trusts me. He also at that point has entered a deep depression. Since his last manic he was diagnosed with bp (eventhough we knew before the dr told us), he now takes lithium everyday, the dr has assured us it (a manic) WILL happen again but knowing when is the difficult part. She also assured us that his meds will have to be increased over time and eventually probably changed. But for now the lithium is working been 6 months this month, and since he was rapid cycling about every 3-5 month he would be manic that is a welcomed change. And i hope it continues!

Every bp is different, eventhough they have similarities.......good luck and God Bless

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10/17/2007 00:03
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I experienced hypersexuality much more when I was younger, but it's starting to resurface. I'm in sort of a mixed state right now, but I attribute it to the manic portion. When my sex drive is abnormally high, it's difficult for me to accept the fact that I can't satisfy every urge when my husband is trying to sleep. When it becomes clear that I won't get what I want, I become angry and hurt. I somehow translate it as my husband finding me repulsive and unattractive. This leads to self loathing and diminished self esteem. Sometimes I skip the process of trying to convince my husband that it's a great idea to wake up at three in the morning to have sex after he's taken melatonin, and go straight to porn. Afterward I feel silly and embarrassed.

I know in my heart that I would never be unfaithful to my husband. But I worry that, in a manic state, I'll do something that will crush the both of us. The thing that keeps me in line is focusing on the issue when it's happening, and analyzing the situation. I know that the sexual urge is a product of mania. I also know that when I'm manic, a project (writing a song, organizing a closet, even playing tetris) is the best therapy for me.

I understand the lack of remorse. Personally, if I know I've done something that has hurt someone, I try to justify it so I won't have to deal with the guilt. But, I am always dealing with it, even if I'm not consciously aware.

That was more of a novel than a reply. Sorry.

Tonya


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12/07/2007 22:38
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Dear Viva,

I recently got engaged and it was only one day after my fiancee and I found out that he was bipolor. A week before that he admited to me that he had cheated on me with 5 different people. I didnt know how to react I didnt know what to do speacially because of how religious he is. He ended up in the hospital a few days later after admiting that to me. I feel as if I am going through the same thing as you. I feel really confused and really hurt. I hope and pray to God that it is the bipolar illness that caused him to do all of this but we will never really know. He is taking medications right now and it has been really hard! I do know that they do feel remorse but they act like they did nothing wrong. I wonder if in there mind showing that they hurt is a sign of weakness. Someone did tell me that they would try to make us feel like we are the problem so if she is doing that just remember that she is trying to get you where it really hurts. They will try to belittle you and make you feel like crap. What you have to do if she is not on meds is be really stern with her and tell her that she needs to be a grown up and own up to the illness. Tell her that the illness has been controling her long enough and now its time to control the illness. Try to make sure you are serious and dont apologize for being stern. I really hope that you are ok and that this information helps you a little. Whatever you do please dont forget that you also deserve to be happy. Yeah we love our significant other till death but they have to take control of their illness and own up to it so everyone around them can be happier. If you want to talk and share stories I am here. Hope you have a great day and a blessed night!

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12/07/2007 22:49
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Sorry I ment him not her! and also wanted to tell you that his cheating has nothing to do with you. They believe that you might be cheating on them so they find excuses to cheat on you. Or they believe that looks are soooooo important that they try to find something that is more out of the magazines. They live in a different world when they cheat. PLEASE whatever you do dont think or dont let him convince you that you are the one to blame for the cheating. This will only hurt you more! Because honestly they wont be afraid to belittle you. I also believe that if they are not on meds they think that almost everyone else is better for them than the person that they have in front of them. If he starts taking meds he will realize that you are truly his love! I am really sorry that you are going through this. None of us should ever have to go through anything close to this. The pain is unbareable! Please try to stay chipper and please take care of yourself because if he is not on meds then he could care less on how it makes you feel.
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12/08/2007 05:41
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Hi,

I have to admit I have done this to my husband, more than once and lied when he found a receipt of a hotel room in my purse. I will tell you that once my medicines were working, I was remorseful and asked foregivness from him and God. I have not since then cheated and that was 6 years ago. I do go out maybe once every three months with my girlfriends and dance with other guys and flirt, but always come home to my husband. My husband does not like to dance and he has been with me when other guys will ask me to dance, it don't bother him now because he knows I am going home with him and the night will be fun when we get home

Lilly



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12/08/2007 08:12
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And someday my wife (now exwife unfortunately) will realize what she has done when the relationship she is currently in falls apart. But knowing that doesn't help me or my son to feel better. But she knows in her mind that when her boyfriend dumps her that she can come home to her family. Even with her illness she knows that we still love her and would take her back. Perhaps I should have tried to remove that option from her mind but she knows me and she knows that she is my heart. For her I would give the world. So she takes advantage of that. My son has been hurt even worse than me but he has given up on her. That is perhaps the hardest thing for me to see. She is his mother but doesn't want to be his mom.
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12/08/2007 16:01
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Hello there well i am bipolar I ma on meds and thought I had it under control I had got my family back my husbands trust but t hen i fell in love w someone else and tired splitting up w husband but now he has taken the kids my whole life has fell apart i use to cheat on my husband all the time b/c i said i didnt love him to and I never felt remorse I still dont b/c I fil i told him he should have left but i fill remore b/c now my decisions are affecting my kids and they have always been my world so I guess to answer your q yes bipolar causes that i always cheated b/c I didnt feel loved and you could do everything nothing he ever did worked when a relationship getsold then im looking for something else I need that spark of brand new that no one can keep for ever but yes it is myfault i cant stop I just dont realize who i hurt but i want to change that but it is so hard i havent gotten it right yet but from a cheater I truley now am sorry for what ive done i just kept him hanging around b/c he was safe and for the kids but my husband was not important to me after the 1st year

Hope even though its not a good out look maybe you can get something I hate who I am most of the time but when im manic I am the best and thats when I cheat among other things and cant grasp what im doing to others till I crash and have lost everything then I find out the full effect but before I can fix it ive gone manis agian and mess it up i dont put everything on being bi polar but im on meds and I still go in to those moods

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12/08/2007 16:51
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Hello

Hope everything between you and son are ok. Suggest therpy for your son. You appear to have some issue with denial about your wife's return?

Your son should come first, before an anticipated return of mom.

Half measures avail us nothing and Rigourious Honesty on your part unfortunately is........ up to you.

I'm a recovering drunk so I'm sorry for my bluntness, but this was the only way I could stay sober and keep my sanity. Alcohol and drugs have always kept me blinded and in denial and I know now.. that's devine madness. Some call it insanity take your pick.

What's more important is your health and to be there for your son. You may need to admit to yourself she may not return..then what?

I hope you place your hope in something higher than your situation...in recovery we call that a... Higher Power. I would not be alive today if it had not been for a "Spiritual Awakening" in my life. My life is manageable now, is it perfect... no, but I am alive and you are too.

May you find yours today!

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