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The best way to talk to the irrational side?



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05/06/2008 18:15
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Thank you DC.
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05/06/2008 18:39
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Hi bejeweled,

I have bipolar 1, with rapid cycling, and psychosis. I have had some terrible dillusions, and think everyone is conspirizing against me.

I have triggers. It's important to find out what her triggers are.

Mine are abandonment, if my kids are at risk, and old family issues.

My fiance and I are working on this very thing.

So far, I have to do my part, and he has to do his. I have been working on being aware of when the cycle starts, and when it ends. If I pace myself, I know when to get a time out, before it gets out of my control.

There are things I need to do to take care of myself, and I have told my fiance if, I need to take a break from life for a couple of days. My fiance helps me by getting me out of the house. We go work out, or go do errands. I can't take on too much. I have 4 kids, and I can get really stressed out, and need to go get some time out. I used to get so mad, when, I was left home with out a car, with three babies, and no way to get out. I felt isolated. I would wait for by boyfriend to come home, and demand his attention. Mostly, I need to feel like I am important.

My fiance is learning how to deal with me, when, I am manic. He doesn't react, and I usually, can sense when, I am about to try to pull him into a fight. I now can walk away, and go outside, and calm down. When, I beyond the point where, I can't calm down we agreed he needs to leave, or warn me to take my antipsychotic that, I have been given for emergencies.

I also have a crisis support team. My therapist, pdoc, and PSR worker, and close friends.

I am glad you are setting boundaries, and not putting up with any of her dishonest behavior. My fiance , and I have a very honest relationship, and work together pretty well. He has offered to go to my pdoc appointments with me.

God Bless,Gypsy
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05/06/2008 19:11
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Thank you Gypsy. She hung up on me about an hour ago and threatened to burn down the hotel. And it actually seems like it's WORSE. I think her not coming home tonight was the right choice, even though it was for a different reason. I called her back several times and she wouldn't answer. So I left her a message that asked her to call me back or I would have to call the police and report that she is threatening to burn down a hotel with a bunch of people in it. She called me back. We didn't resolve anything but I do know she took her medication and is falling asleep. I am glad she is able to sleep, I won't be able to. I am so resentful right now. And jusifiably angry. A lot of good it does me since I am the only one that cares. Yesterday I understood and felt all this compassion. Today I don't want her here. I think that I need to see some more work on her part to stay on her meds and start doing some cognative therapy. I also really need to detach from this somehow. She can suck me in so fast I don't even realize its happening. Tomarrow is another day. I think I am going to try and not talk to her tomarrow. I want a break. Of course, I can't tell her I want a break because that would make all hell break loose. But I might be able to avoid her. I just need to get MY head together without getting pulled back into the drama.
You have delighted us long enough.
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Do or do not. There is no try. -YODA

"Someone call the doctor, got a case of love bipolar. Stuck on a roller coster and can't get off this ride."
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05/06/2008 19:15
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Stay safe Bejeweled...tomorrow is another day...is right. We care...you take of yourself and your kids...
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/07/2008 10:29
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Hi Bejeweled,

Don't worry so much about her reaction. If you walk on egg shells, and let her have this power over you you are enabling her to continue taking this out on you. This is called caretaking. Yopu are afraid of her. You are not taking care of you by dpoing this. You are getting entangled in her sickness. This is her illness, and she needs to take the steps to get help, and get herself better. None of what you are doing is helping her, or keeping her from behaving the way she is.

If you need to take a long break. She has been offered the opportunity to get help. If she doesn't take it she will get worse.

It's time to say no, and get out of the way of the bus. If you keep getting in the way, you will get hit.

She is not able to be responsible, or available. Until she is stable it doesn't help to fight her, or try to reason with her. She is accountable for her actions, but if she wont make the effort to stop, the only way to take care of you is to remove your self from the situation. It is called detaching. Detaching is letting go, and letting someone learn from their own consequences. You have been focussing all your energy on her, that your kids, and you have probably been neglected. Maybe you could get some help for you from a counselor, or friends, and family. She wont be there until she is ready, and sometimes it takes awhile to get stable. Love her from a distance, and allow her story to unfold. This isn't your battle.

Hang in there. WE are here for you.

God Bless,Gypsy
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05/07/2008 11:27
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Thank you gypsy. I feel like I am losing myself.
You have delighted us long enough.
- Jane Austen

Do or do not. There is no try. -YODA

"Someone call the doctor, got a case of love bipolar. Stuck on a roller coster and can't get off this ride."
-Kate Perry Hot & Cold.
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05/07/2008 13:54
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Someone in the midst of an uncontrolled manic episode can be like a runaway train. You, as the spouse, cannot stop the train. All you can do is jump off and save yourself.

Just my .02.



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05/07/2008 13:55
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Great analogy !
You have delighted us long enough.
- Jane Austen

Do or do not. There is no try. -YODA

"Someone call the doctor, got a case of love bipolar. Stuck on a roller coster and can't get off this ride."
-Kate Perry Hot & Cold.
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05/07/2008 16:44
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I have mixed feelings about this.... If my loved ones had given up on me, I'm confident I'd be the nutty homeless woman feeding pigeons downtown; or WORSE.... But on the other hand, you can't allow her sickness to make YOU sick. My suggestion is to get some counseling FOR YOURSELF so you can learn how to keep your sanity while you try to help her regain hers...
"Insanity destroys reason, but not wit." - Nathaniel Emmons
"There's not much you can do or say to phase me; people think I'm a little bit crazy." - Eminem
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05/07/2008 17:09
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Well, she is home now. And everything is ok so far. I showed her this site and she immediately started reading my posts LOL! But it's not anything I wouldn't say to her anyway. She is taking her meds and going to therapy. I am going to go myself too and her doctor gave her info on support groups both for her and for me. I am going to do that too. It's not as if I am sane and she is not. the joke we have always had is that we were both crazy in the same way and that's why it works. The reality is that we are both crazy in different ways and that has always been the real reason. I have TONS of issues. None of which I don't believe there are medications for. It becomes clear with this situation that something that we have always laughed about (after the huge fight of course) is our horrible communication skills. Going forward with this we have to actually get some or this will never work.
You have delighted us long enough.
- Jane Austen

Do or do not. There is no try. -YODA

"Someone call the doctor, got a case of love bipolar. Stuck on a roller coster and can't get off this ride."
-Kate Perry Hot & Cold.
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