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05/04/2008 07:58
Heather36
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I've posted here before about my relationship with my mother and I am wondering about a couple of things. I live in the same town as my mom but just the other day I visited with her after purposely not seeing her for awhile. The last several months she has just been too much for me to deal with.

Anyhow....last summer I helped my mom clear out a yard full of weeds, etc so she could begin working on improvements to her yard. Apparently those improvements never happened as her yard looks just as bad as it did prior to the work. I asked her why she never completed the work and she told me she was too busy with her "boyfriend." She has only met this guy once and he lives 2,000 miles away.

Also, she has a large box of our old family pictures from generations past and she was supposed to work on scanning and archiving them. When I was at her house I asked her about the pictures and she showed me where they were - in a messy pile on her closet floor with cat hair, etc all over them. I was very annoyed as these pictures are very important to me and the only copies we have. She was initially very insistent about doing this work herself but again, too busy with the boyfriend she never sees to complete the work, or to even put the pictures back in the box to keep the cat from sleeping on them.

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but this has just been frustrating. All that yardwork last year in the summer heat, all for nothing, and those family pictures that she carelessly leaves on the floor.....are these examples of a seemingly inability to finish projects a symptom of BP, or is this just plain bad behavior/bad choices/whatever? And then blaming this on a basically non-existent boyfriend was basically laughable to me, just a random excuse as far as I am concerned. Overall, I just don't want to automatically assume that everything she does or doesn't do is somehow related to her BP.

I also know that if she wants to live in a house with a nasty yard with 4 foot tall weeds and have belongings she doesn't really care about - there's nothing I can do about it. It's just frustrating for me to see her live like this, especially after others have put forth a lot of effort to help her with many things. She had a guy over here last year to rototill the yard (and for free) - now you would be unable to see that effort. The bag of grass seed she was going to put in the newly rototilled yard is rotting away in the corner of the yard. It would be one thing if she asked for help again, or even admitted she couldn't keep up with it, but she just acts cocky about it - mentioning the guy that did the rototilling works for her and "what was he going to do about it?" And then she laughs. Ugh.....

I've learned a good lesson about what NOT to help her with but still find the whole thing frustrating and admittedly, pretty embarrassing. We know a lot of the same people and I hate it when people ask me what's "wrong" with her or why she does one thing or another. I've taken to telling people to have a conversation with her if they feel something is wrong with her behavior - which I'm pretty sure they probably don't in the long run. Nonetheless, it's still embarrassing sometimes.

The last several months I have just distanced myself from her because I can't stand her behavior (diagnosed with BP but is not medicated or in therapy, very manic right now). But I feel guilty a lot and that's something I need to work on for my own peace of mind - and I'm always torn about what seems to be related to her BP or is just "regular behavior."

Sorry for the length......must be my morning to vent. Thanks, Heather

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05/04/2008 10:09
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Hi Heather if you need to vent...this is a good place...do you want some comments??? or did you just need to get this off of your chest?
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/04/2008 10:42
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I was venting a bit but also interested in hearing from people about those who seem to start things they don't ever finish. While anyone can have that problem, this seems to be one of the strongest and most consistent aspects of my mom's personality. Anything from not being able to maintain a marriage (whenever it got tough in her first two, she bailed almost immediately) to finishing tasks like yardwork or housework).

The initial yardwork - most of it was done by me and a few others. She moved into a house and the yard was slowly becoming bad but still manageable. Now the same yard looks like a pit with four foot tall + weeds and no grass. All she had to do was put out the grass seed and plant a few flowers, all of which she had at her disposal. It ticked me off because of all the work that was done and she doesn't seem to care or even bothered that her yard looks like h*ll after everything that was done - or the fact that she has to look at it everyday.

She just seems really unappreciative most the time and laughs at people after they do things for her - refers to them as "suckers." For many months now she been engaging in all these projects - she doesn't finish any of them - and been particularly mean and self-centered. It's frustrating a lot of the time.



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05/04/2008 11:22
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I am just concerned about the amount of animosity you show about your relationship with your mom. Don't misunderstand, I am not an,"honor thy parent", kinda gal. Can you pin point when it began, or what precipiitated it? Is it that you did these things for her and you don't receive enough praise from her? Did you do these things for her or for you? Just kind of sounds to me like maybe the energy you put into being upset with her could be better spent elsewhere. If you are truely that disgusted with her, nip this now, and stop letting her ruin your life. Remember, she didn't get to be her age because you walked her through it. Sounds like she will just never be, "mother of the year".

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05/04/2008 11:44
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Heather, not showing gratitude or being rude is not a bipolar trait...it is just that rude. Whether bipolar or not...good manners are a sign of being raised to respect other people. Calling people who have done something nice to help you suckers is rude and shows a lack of manners. You learned your good manners from somewhere...like Gloria said was she always like this???

Who taught you good manners??...if she has always been like this it certainly was not her. I would have limited contact since her behavior is insensitive at best. And let her weed her own garden next time...since you and anyone who tries to help is a sucker.

"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/04/2008 11:57
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Hi Gloria- thinking back about the yard (far more recent than some of the other things that have happened), I don't believe it was about the praise and I don't need a mother of the year type. But the callous way she treats her g-kids, me, people who work for her (the work people behind their backs), I just find it really disrespectful. I'm no saint by any means but if I had people over to help and do things for free, I wouldn't treat them like s*it under my shoes after the work was done.

Our problems go back a long ways, most of my life I can remember. And no, she didn't make it to 60 because I got her through her life, LOL. However, she literally disappeared from my life on three distinct occasions - when I was was 3, when I was 9, and when I was 14. When I was 9 she disappeared for 4 months and I literally had no clue where she was and she just showed back up - she left me with the newspaper delivery girl and her parents who did not speak English. When I was 14 she left me with my stepdad and I had a good idea where she was but found out later she was where she was due to an extramarital affair she didn't want to give up due to moving with my stepdad and me. I don't remember what happened when I was 3 but I have heard things. So you're right, no mother of the year here.

The yard, I did it for her as I mistakenly thought things would be different this go-around. Not so. She was very depressed at the time and was experiencing difficulties getting her life together and many offered to help and did so, myself included. Her yard was atrocious and she lives in a neighborhood/community where there are certain expectations/rules about yard/house upkeep. I thought she cared then but it's obvious she doesn't now.

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05/04/2008 12:05
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Hi Norma, throughout a lot of my childhood I lived/stayed with my grandparents (both sides) as my dad was/mostly still is an absent parent, and mom was often off on shenanigans. I attribute my manners to my grandparents and common sense.

The reason I ask about my mom's current severe rudeness/mean behavior, etc and how it may relate to her bipolar is because any of her behaviors seem to go in phases. She can go through long periods of time where she is not like she is now, or times when she is severely depressed - during these other times she seems to be nowhere near as mean, rude, or callous as she is now and has been at other times. All of this comes in patterns throughout all of my own life that I can remember.



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05/04/2008 12:07
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Heather...I can remember after my mother died my father leaving me and my brother with people we hardly knew for periods of time. It made me always feel for years that I was less than other people...like i was a servant or not worthy. He would leave us without food and neighbors would ask us to dinner...my brother would go and eat, but, I was too proud to admit I was hungry, I would say I had eaten already. My point is I can relate to what you are feeling...it is hard. My Dad drank and chased women a lot of times. And my brother and I kind of raised ourselves. I would lie and tell people we had plenty of food and stuff when we went hungry.

It made me want to be a better parent when I had kids...my PAPA loved us just was sick.

"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/04/2008 12:22
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The situation you describe during your childhood, that must have been tough to deal with. I was only left with people I barely knew on one occasion (other times were with relatives) but I remember it as very traumatic, especially not knowing if my mom was alive or not, where she was, etc. A long time ago I tried to talk to her about this situation, to which she responded, "You shouldn't have let that stuff bother you, I had a life to live too." Well, ok....but I think a 9 year old would have had a hard time getting their mind around that one.

My mom does have a lot of issues, she has always been very promiscuous, she is bipolar, and in the past she used drugs (marijuana and cocaine) on a regular basis. What upsets me far more than her 'issues' is that she has never taken responsibility for much of anything - it's always someone else's fault. It would be somewhat easier to let go of the past if she took some responsibility.

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05/04/2008 12:51
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Heather, because of things that happened during my childhood, I have had to be treated for mental illness for most of my 58 years. My biggest problem, or so I thought, was from the hate I held for my parents and the guilt of feeling that hate. Everyone is supposed to love their parents, isn't that right?? Finally one day. I had a therapist tell me..."It's OK not to love them". That doesn't mean you are a bad person. They were wrong, and evil, and there was no reason to love them. It was like the weight of the world taken off my shoulders. We talked about it and she said what I had to do was work on putting that hate way back in my mind so that it would stop ruling my life. I have. I will never forget it and I will never forgive them. I will always hate them, but now, I can live with it and have a happy life.







"We Know We Are Out Of Step When"

We cannot walk a straight line.
We've stepped on our brother's foot.
We forget to be thankful.
We feel alone.
We think our dance is the only dance there is.


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