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callme2crazy
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If you did not see the show today on bipolar disorder with Sinead O'Conner and Patty Duke then get online at Oprah.com. It was a great show. Sinead spoke so eloquently and was able to put into words what we all feel. I want to know what all of you think too...talk to me.  Dee |
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bibluepolar
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I know, I watched the very very end of it right when Oprah said to go to Oprah.com to see more about Bipolar Disorder and what was on the show today. I was chatting with a friend online who was in another State and said the show wasn't quite on yet where she was and that she was going to watch it. I went online to read about sinead occonnor and her struggles. I was just thinking the other day that our talk shows don't even acknowledge Bipolar Disorder and they should do a show about the illness because it doesn't seem talked enough in our society. I was surprised and just so happy to see it was on Oprah today, so yes CALLME2CRAZY , that was a site for all of us to feel like we are truely NOT ALONE! I hope my wonderfully, UNSUPPORTIVE, ex has watched the show as she usually does watch the Oprah show. Maybe she could learn alittle bit of understanding. Anyway, take it easy folks and remember we are ALL IN THIS TOGETHER! April  |
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bibluepolar
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Callme2crazy, It was funny because I, too, was just coming on here to let every one know about the show being on today!
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callme2crazy
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OMG! I too was hoping my ex was seeing or hearing about this too. He left me and our children in the middle of my fall out with bp. I am just so happy see Oprah do this show because she reached millions of people today. The producers did a fantastic job putting this together, I really related to each person she interviewed. The number one issue we should be fighting for is a standard of care. There are too many meds and possible combinations and finding the right meds is absolutely exhausting. And pdocs do not all work or think the same which just screws the process up even more. Consumers need to fight for better health care for bipolar treatment. Dee |
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bibluepolar
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Dee, I feel the exact same way about pdocs and finding the right meds. I went and saw my psychologist today and I told her about what this other doctor said to me when I was in the hospital about how paxil cr and depakote together is not a good combination for ppl with bipolar and she said she never even heard about that. It is scary b/c one doc will want you to take certain meds one way or another and another doc will want you take meds in a different way and they don't always agree on the dosages and such either. It makes it very difficult for our mental states and also our physical health to get use to the changes. I am hoping they have more talk shows about bipolar disorder and they keep up on showing the world what we go through , so that the world won't judge us as much. The one thing I don't agree on is on the site it says something about bipolar driving a parent to kill their child... I love children and it never has that effect on me, just moody, but not to the point where I couldn't control myself . It can make you mad enough to really go crazy but Im don't think it can drive you that far. Has anyone read that part on the internet or heard about it? If you have, what do you think on the situation? I would like to hear some feedback b/c it scares me and if its true , It is scary that something like that can happen as a result of having this illness, although I personally don't believe its the illness itself that would do such an awful thing to a child. I dont know.... lemme know April |
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I got to see the slideshow/transcript. Thank you so much for posting this! I hope my mother (who usually watches Oprah) saw it too--it hurts me that she doesn't support me in my choice to take medication for my illness (which was diagnosed as unipolar depression until about a month ago, when it was more properly diagnosed as Bipolar II), and maybe if she saw this show, she'll start to understand. Also, Sinead has always been one of my favorite rockers. Knowing that she's had to deal with this illness makes me feel less alone. |
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callme2crazy
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If you got something out of this show then let the Harpo staff know by sending a comment on the show at Oprah.com. Did anyone else sense that Sinead has BPII even though she didn't seem to know this? BPII manifests itself as anger, aggression, and irritation to crowds and noise, to name a few. Dee
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Hi, Changling and Call me, as a BP - II myself, I well recognize the symptoms that you talked about, as for killing one's child? that is a label that has been laid on us by the media and the movies along with several defense attorney's trying to get their clients off. I don't believe for a moment that because we have this illness, that it makes us bad parents or a danger to our children, I have two healthy grown kids. Carmen |
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callme2crazy
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Folks I am still undecided about the parent/child endangerment issue. I have to admit that it is a possibility, especially with schizophrenics. The definition of psychosis is insanity and bipolar people can have psychotic features. I cannot believe that an otherwise gentle and loving mother could kill her children and not be insane. Yes there are evil people in this world but mental illness is an evil of its own. I do not intend to say that we are all this way or that we need to be monitored with our children, far from it. And I don't know how we face the issue of severely mentally ill parents and the question of their being monitored either. But we cannot sweep the issue under the rug. There could easily be hurting parents reading this thread tonight. The real question is how do we help. Dee |
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Hi Callme, while I will agree that this is a topic not to be swept under the rug lightly, I do not believe that we should encouraging the thought that those with mental illness are likely to go around killing our children, or others for that matter, insanity vs mentally ill, will bring up over 650,000 sites on a google search. Most phycologists have a distinction between the mentally ill and the insane. You pose a excellent question on "how do we help?" and added to that, is how do we tell who is going to need help? Some knew that Cho who committed the Virgina Tech shootings needed help, others did not recognize that he did, Jeffrey Dalmer seemed to be a great guy at the same time he was killing people and eating them, cannibalism in some cultures is accepted as normal, the term mentally ill, is accepted as being something outside the "Normal" accepted behavior of the majority of people. I do not make light of mental illness or insanity, I only wish to convey that we should not be willing to enter into the belief that those with mental illness are more prone to homicide than those that are considered "normal" Andrea Yates for example medical experts from both sides seem to agree that Yates was psychotic when she drowned her five children, but they cannot agree on the key question jurors must decide: Was Yates legally insane? "In my professional opinion, Andrea Yates knew her conduct was wrong when she anticipated and then carried out the drownings on June 20, 2001," said Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist, who interviewed Yates for two days in May 2006. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates http://www.courttv.com/trials/yates/071806_ctv.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_illness http://www.d230.org/cs/matiya/Psychology/Abnormal%
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