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I got in a fight with a cop over the phone about my neighbor children harassing my daughter. This town is a flippin' joke!I had been dealing with a different officer about the matter. He was okay about things. Said he was going to talk to the boy. Had never done it because he was still doing what he was doing. The officer stopped by asked if things were going okay even?At the time they were fine?Last week, they were getting out of hand. My nieces & my daugher were outside in MY fenced yard swinging. And the boy starts laughing really stupid and yells assholes at them. They are 4,6 & 8 years old. The boy is 15yrs old. They were not doing anything..I tell them to ignore him. THe day before that my daughter was swinging on the porch swing and he comes outside and just laughs at her really stupid until she cant take it anymore and she comes inside..She cant play outside because he does this stuff all the time. Last summer he was even worse, he road his bike right behind hers and called her names. I called his grandma because the mother is never home and she came over and told me she would just have to learn how to deal with boys and she screamed and cursed at me. Her husband had just had a heart attack and her grandson didn't no how to deal with it. And his mother works all the time, and he never gets to see his dad because they are divorced...I told her i was sorry that her husband had a heart attack and all that other stuff, but that didn't give her grandson the right to treat my daughter the way he was treating her. I said he needed to use his time more constructively. Go to the swimming pool. Give him money to buy a model, play a computer game, watch tv, do a puzzle??I told her, we havent had anyone in the family that has had a heart attack, but we have our own problems and we don't need his SHIT. I called the police and the officer i had been talking to was in some type of schooling this past week so i talked to someone new and he was a complete asshole. Mind you the way I talked to him, the whole time, I didn't no this man is running for Sherrif LMAO I dont give a RIP!HAHAHA..Just found out yesterday from my best friend  I explained that I had been talking to a different officer and he was supposed to have talked to the boy about this. And told him that it hadn't stopped. Asked him what could be done about it. I told him my daughter can't even play in her own freakin yard without being 'harassed' every second every minute. Gets cursed at...I hadn't ever talked to the mother because I was scared because of the way the grandmother talked to me. He said you keep using the word harassment. It's annoying but it's not harassment. And I don't no what you think we can do about it?He is not breaking any laws. OMG, I went off. So I told him..He can say whatever the hell he wants to say to my child, do whatever the hell he wants to my child and get away with it..His grandparents are big wigs..So he can get away with it. He said Oh thats a new one. Just because he is someone certains grandkid he can get away with whatever he wants. I said yeah I said it. You heard me asshole. If it was someone else doing this you would be taking care of it. Its not fair that my child cant even play in her own fucking front yard. She is a little girl, and a 15 year old littl bratt is sitting her cursing at her?I was in the other room when I was using my MOUTH!!!!!I WAS PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!He was irritating me just because he could...So I said when I asked the OTHER cop what rights my daughter had he lied to us when he said she had the right to play in her own front yard peacefuly? He said welll uh, you need to protect your child. I said well, i guess you sure in the hell arent going to help me do that are you?your just an asshole. He kept telling me to quit calling it harassment because i kept telling him it was harassment. I told him I will use what ever fucking word I wanted to. I said its 'harassment harassment harassment'..He kept talking and I said What the hell ever asshole and I hung up on him...I thought well, since its not harassment to call a little 8 year old an asshole, i cant get in trouble for calling a cop an asshole????? I called my therapist and told her about it and she said GOOOD FOR YOU..I told her i thought I was having a break down. She said if anything else happend and I ended up in jail to use my one phone call on her and she would come to help me out!LMAO. I just looked the word up for harassment and it says HARASSMENT : TO IRRITATE OR TORMENT PERSISTENTLY. I think I may call the police department and give them a definition later. Just because Im a bitch. Do you think they need to be educated?????? |
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norma
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I think you need to go down there and CALMLY repeat calmly...file a formal complaint...they cannot stop you from doing that...a fifteen year old that entertains himself by harrasing (yes you are right it is) is a bully....period...Just stay calm...when you do it because if you lose your temper you lose the battle...and the important thing is to help you child be able to play in her own yard...If it continues see about getting a restraining order...against the bully...And honey, stay calm....get strength from the fact that you and your daughter have rights... "In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan
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Norma, Also I left out..I called my husband BAWLING..telling him I cursed out a cop. I was hysterical. And he came home. The mother was home for ONCE. He said well she is home we can go talk to her I will go with you. Pounded on the door. One of the boys came to the front room, i seen the curtain move. They werent going to answer the door!I said we arent leaving until someone comes to the door!!!He knew we werent leaving, the brother of the boy came to the door. He said "Yeah" I told him we needed to speak to his MOTHER. My husband told me to calm down I said I dont give a CRAP about those boys! She came to the door I was bawling. She was like what the heck. We talked to her about it and I told her what he was doing and she was like well he is having trouble he is 15 and he is in between being a kid and a teenager, im not trying to make excuses at all, there is no excuse..I said NO ther is NOT. My husband said it would be one thing if it was occassional, but its ALL the time, every time she comes outside, its like he watches and listens for her. I said, i would appreciate it if you told him not to even look our way, dont look at our house, dont look at her, dont speak to her, NOTHING. When Im outside he whistles at me..Its disrespectful, rude & I dont like it. I told her about last summer and her mother talking to me like she did, she didnt even no about it...Her mom didnt even tell her about it because she said she was happy I told her about it because the mother would have beat him with a belt..That is what he needed..Anyway, she said that she wuld tell him to stop, she made him apologize to my daughter and he apologized to my husband. I was inside, they were outside..He had the freakin nerve to tell him to make sure she left him alone..OOOOOOOH MY GOSH..I watch her when she is outside. He is the one that starts it every time...She is no angel, but I tell her to leave him alone..I let her mouth them one night because they were outside yelling 'we are stealing your internet every night you go to bed' they were trying to get on our nerves so i let her go out there and get 'em... ANYWAYS!!!!!He is supposed to leave her alone..IF it starts up again..I will do what you say Norma!Great idea!!!! Amber--I think I will make a personal trip up to the police department with a typed up definition of harassment!!!Let them no I AIN' SCURED!!!!HEHE AHOLES
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Document the conversation...and the times and dates as you can remember them of any prior occurances...write everything down (not too much detail) example (Monday 2:00 pm...daughter in front yard...(boy's name) called her a whateverhesays. Daughter came inside. I went and asked him to stop. He called me awhateverhe says. 3:00 pm daughter in back yard...playing (boy's name) called over fence and used foul language. You get the picture...write it down...events not feelings...just like a report...make a copy so you can attach it to statement if the harrassment continues... I would not define harrasment for them...research local criminal code and cite statute if you want...police are kind of funny about you telling them the law...but, just attach copy of statute to the statement... Also, send copy to boy's mother...if you want...do not curse...or sound abusive to them...CALM CALM CALM...OK? "In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan
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AND TEACH DAUGHTER THIS SAYING "Sticks and stones may break my bones...but, names will never Hurt me". My mother taught this to me after an incident when I was 8 yrs old...I was the smallest in the neighborhood...this was in 1958..ok. And the neighborhood bully who was much bigger and older than me hit me with a 2x4...for no good reason...and knocked me to the ground. I latched on to his leg and bit him hard while he was hitting me with the board...bit a hole in his leg. He stopped hitting and started crying..ran home and had to have stitckes and a tetanus shot. His mother called mine. And said what kind of child are you raising!!! All indignant. My mother (bless her soul she is in heaven now) told her I am raising a child who fights back... I am not saying to fight back like that...I think the Ghandi approach with this one would be better...just ignore him like he doesn't exist and document the harrasment...Passive resistence...he wants the attention. hugs, Norma "In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan
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OMG!! I would have been pissed, too. I have had to be assertive with these agencies, too. I get really passionate about anything that has to do with my kids. I am a mama bear....LOL. But it is better to use grace, and tact. It's still good to be assertive, though. Norma....ROFL......Your story was hilarious. God Bless,Gypsy |
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Take pictures. Follow that little S*** around with a camera, maybe buy one for your daughter too. That might just scare him enough to stop. I have no kids, but had to take pictures of the neighborhood kids throwing trash into my yard. It's so pathetic the way some parents believe their child can do no wrong. Sometimes you need to show them. Good luck with this situation.
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Momo, video tape his antics. Know any 16 year old boys in the neighbor hood, cousins, etc., that can go have a little "talk" with him? When it is brought to your attention give them the old BOYS WILL BE BOYS routine. Put security on your internet, stop them from having free internet. Oh Yea, if you video tape it, post it on the internet show the world what a little "(fill in the blank)" he is. None of these are probably good ideas but it shure makes you feel better thinking of how to string the little booger up! BTW, the officer that treated you like crap, that just happens to be running for Sherrif. Tell him to do somehting about it or you will begin advertising how he is handling the problem to the voters. That ought to get his attention! Post edited by: red1965, at: 04/28/2008 17:20 |
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Red I like the last part...Momorugrats, if he is running against an opponent get in touch with the opponent and tell your story. And don't forget the local news...call them...bulling is big news right now...I just feel sorry for his mother...if she can't control him now what does the future hold for her. "In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan
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wow good for you, that damn cop is being ridiculous. theres no excuse for that kid to be behaving like that and his grandmother needs to get him in check because if hes allowed to get away with this bullshit who knows how far he will go. someones got to teach him that the answer to angst isnt to pick on people weaker than yourself. hes got to resolve his issues not take them out on others or he will develop some messed up "coping skills" that could very well hurt someone down the line. as for sticks and stones, im sorry if this comes off as rude, i have a fair amount of respect for all of you people here and the support you offer each other but ignoring people who repeatedly harrass you might be a bit off in this day an age when there is so much youth on youth violence. lol @ your story though with biting that kids leg. maybe im biast though because i grew up in a very abusive home with an older brother who beat me every chance he could an whenever he did my reaction was tears and terror and my "caregiver" replied with "OH CMON, JUST IGNORE IT!" that effing bitch.. bah. we all want to be mad at the kid but i think im more mad at his gaurdian for not doing enough to help him find better ways to express and work out his issues. hes probably pretty unhappy. i know that i hated my freaking brother for attacking me the way he did, any chance he got he harrassed me, made me cry, was violent, agressive, took sadistic pleasure in my suffering and expressed it with profound glee, cheated, lied, stole from me, anything he could to bring me despair. but the truth of the matter was, he was pretty hurting himself and my caregiver was to blame, she was abusive with him, and condoned his abuse of me. what was he supposed to do? i wonder whats going on for that boy that compels him to behave like that.. =/ Post edited by: catnip, at: 04/28/2008 20:06 Post edited by: catnip, at: 04/28/2008 20:07 |
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