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04/12/2008 10:21
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I have been dealing with this particular questions in therapy for a few weeks now. My question: Where does my bipolar disorder start and my personality end?

I have come to think my actions were a part of who I am as a person. Being told I am bipolar and seeing the symptoms as something I thought was my personality is making the whole thing very confusing.

The other part of this is my next question: Are there sides of my personality that I am not even aware of bc the bipolar has been speaking louder than those parts? If so, how does one find out about these?

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04/12/2008 12:19
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WoW, That's deep. My humble oppinion: When it goes from a reason to becomming an excuse. As far as your personality , it's biPolar. Through meds the highs and lows can be controlled better, but it's still part of your person and, unfortunately, probably always will be.

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04/12/2008 21:18
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well hopefully this will help a little my boyfriend has bipolar and a personality disorder which makes him withdrawl himself from people now the counselor explained this to me like this a personality disorder is learned from childhood if caught when you are young you can change it of course but now it is a part of his personality which makes him ,him and also keeps him sick and does feed off the bipolar its very confusing however he said the personality disorder has to be delt with first to help understand the bipolar do ya kinda get it i mean he explained it alot better but it made me understand what is his personality disorder and his bipolar..whew that was tuff lol hope i either helped or just really confused you (sorry) be blessed :~dragonfly
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04/12/2008 22:05
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Hi psk- your perspective actually opened my eyes to something I was not acknowledging- the point you made about it being an excuse vs. a reason. That made me think about how perpective plays a huge role in anything in life, including mental illness. That's why some people with the same illness do so much better than others. Is this what you were getting at?

Angela

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04/12/2008 22:25
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Hi Dragonfly,

I find your post very interesting in that while in school we were taught that in diagnosing a mental illness it is nearly unheard of that someone has an Axis II diagnosis. Axis II is where the personality disorders are classified in the DSM-IV. Axis I is where the primary mood disorders are classified. ***I should note I am not a doctor or PhD*** I only have a bachelor's degree in Psychology. My point from this is that I am very surprised to hear your bf has an Axis II diagnosis. I know when my doc gave me my diagnosis he made it sound like a personality disorder, but I made him clear that up really fast. He told me bipolar is an Axis I and I don't have an Axis II, nor will he ever diagnose me in such a way.

Anyway, now that I am done rambling on about that I think I get what you are saying, that it becomes part of your personality. Maybe how you deal with the bipolar symptoms has a lot to do with one's personality. I wonder how one deals with these if they are unaware of them in comparison to when they know they have bipolar disorder. I know that just knowing for me makes me way more aware of my behavior. This awareness though is what is confusing me. I always thought I had a firey personality, with a lot of passion. Now I am seeing it all in a different way. I also have a lot more guilt for my behavior. I think my reaction to things has been something I thought I was just pissed off about. Now I see it as being very mean, and the only reason I am able to see it this way is because the bipolar diagnosis detaches those actions from who I am. Before I had to justify those actions to myself not realizing something was really behind my actions. I am sure you can understand this existential contemplation I am in right now with all of this. Does this make any sense to anyone other than myself?

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04/12/2008 22:27
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Hi geekGirl

I have been going to therapy for a year, and also trying to figure out what is my bipolar, and what is me.

So far what, I have seen is, that I am me with my feelings, and emotions, and the bipolar intensifies my reaction to situations.

When, I am stable, and on meds, my bipolar doesn't take over and stand in the way of my personality.

Before, I would get swept away bipolar, and become a victim to it, now, I know, i can lay low, or take breaks, and not have to act on my illness.

I also realize that I have been bipolar for along time, and have lived in dilusion for along time, so, I will be discovering more, and more parts of myself that, I didn't know, before. Before, i got help, I didn't know who, I was. It was if, I was starting over.

My friend who is also bipolar is taking a personality test that helps her see what is the bipolar, and what is her true personality. She is going to give me the test. It is out of some book she is reading.I am excited. I might half to see if, I can find any info online about this.

God Bless,Gypsy
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04/12/2008 22:44
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geekgirl i do understand what you are saying thanks for the insight as well :~dragonfly
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04/12/2008 22:48
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Hi Gypsy,

Thank you for sharing that with me. When you get a hold of that test, can you let me know the name of the book? I have heard of some online, but one from a book is probably more concise.

Thanks,

Angela

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04/12/2008 22:53
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Thank you Dragonfly
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04/12/2008 23:13
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i like to think of what is really me as my soul...that part of me that is part of the collective consciousness; that was "me" before i was born; perfect in love and understanding. there are plenty of people who are not bipolar who seek that place in themselves where God lives-their true selves. bipolar is an illness. it will always be something i HAVE but it will not be something i AM. NAMASTE=the divine in me sees the divine in you. being bp may have brought out some negative parts of me, but it has also made me more compassionate. you are seeking and so that is who you really are...that seeker who looks for who is I AM. you are your beautiful, perfect "geekgirl" soul.

peace and love

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Thou canst not disturb a flower without the troubling of a star...from "Troubling a Star", by Madelaine L'Engle...we all affect one another by our words and actions...it is our choice whether to do so purposefully and positively, or carelessly and hurtfully...may we all bring to one another the peace that we seek...

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