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04/06/2008 19:42
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CarnivaleLife, I am going to start a new thread so you and I can talk. OK
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04/06/2008 19:46
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Hi carnivalelife. TOTALLY get what youre saying and I definately agree with having hope and supporting the man you love. That exactly what I'm doing with my BP BF. I know what you mean how some of the posts here may seem like theyre telling you to "run like hell" BUT...... I do think theres one really important point even in your examples(stroke/paralysis) that you may not be considering. You said " If you were paralyzed you would do physical therapy, If you had a stroke-speech therapy, If blind would continue to cross the street". Those are all perfect examples of you HELPING YOURSELF which in turn allows you to have a relationship. What good would you be to your SO or yourself if you refused to get physical therapy and just gave in to the paralysis and allowed it to ruin your life and relationship? My first reaction is not to suggest to ppl to "run like hell" but I do realize that when you have exhausted all avenues in attepting to try to get that BP person to get help and they still wont, and the emotional strain is too much to bear(like in my situation) it may be time to let go. I wasnt going to break up with my BF bc he was bipolar... I was going to break up with him bc he was choosing to NOT GET HELP and allow this illness to destroy us. Thankfully he saw the light and did seek help at that point but if he didnt I would have left him bc the relationship was sucking the life out of me. Thats just my point of view. xoxo
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04/06/2008 19:49
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Thanks again, Red. And I completely see your point, Jenn. The problem is, I just don't know how long to stay and when to go.

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04/06/2008 20:22
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Good for you Ride em high. So glad to hear you are taking back control of your life and feeling good. Hugs to you!!!
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04/06/2008 22:05
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Hi again... I don't mind how things tangent... no worries.

I should clarify, as my post was intended more to celebrate the changes that have happened since my last post.

I do not and would never use a bipolar diagnosis to excuse abusive behavior. Never. With that being said, I had recognized that I had become unilaterally rude and nasty to my boyfriend.

I had allowed myself to depend on him to do the things that I should have been taking care of in my life. In general, it turned into a sick pattern of my short fuse bursting in frustration when certain things happen (which might be a bi-polar symptom). Once I hit frustration mode, he began doing everything he could to fix the problem, innocently trying to make me happy. It would end up one of two ways, either he would fix it (leaving me depending on him to fix my problems) OR he couldn't figure it out (since it was my problem anyhow). And if I was frustrated or angry and he was trying to fix it and just not able to do it... watch out, that's would open the door to things escalating into abusive situations.

I don't mean to throw any words around here. My intention with the word 'co-dependent' was relative to the fact that I had depended on him to keep my life stable and happy and ripple-free. That is an unhealthy dependency (IN MY OPINION), because life always deals us challenges. I'm a much more grounded person when I actually suffer and heal and come out of it stronger and more mature.

Anyways, let the conversation flow...

I'm just DAMN happy that I'm in my own house, getting overwhelmed by my own chores, grateful for friend's help in finding a new couch and offering to rearrange the house so it doesn't look so sad and empty.

One other point to clarify. This break-up has been solely by my design. I'm hoping that I don't come to regret my decision, but so far, I feel so happy and stable and solid...

No meds at this time... and many, many, many of the emotional upheavals that have put me on the brink of starting on that track of treatment are subsiding now that I've reclaimed my life.

Yes, I'm behind on chores, but I'm not angry and freaking out at someone every day anymore.

And Carnivale, if you want to PM me, feel free.

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04/06/2008 22:15
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So happy for you!!! Do you see a pdoc though? and therapist? Just wondering if youve been dx'd with BP by a doc shouldnt you be on meds? I'm so glad you feel really good now and yes it does sound that your last relationship was not a healthy one but dont you need meds to ward off the problems related to BP????
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04/06/2008 22:38
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Hey Jenn,

Yes I do see a p-doc. I've been diagnosed bi-polar 2, I believe. Lately he said I'm experiencing mixed episodes.

The question around whether I should medicate has been really tough for me to understand. I took Lamictal during most of 2005. It seemed to be a never ending process of thinking that I felt better for a few weeks, then going back to feeling the same again. Then the dosage would be raised up again and it would be the same pattern. After one year of spending over $2000 out of pocket, not feeling much different, and ending up 20 pounds heavier, I asked the doctor if I could go off.

Next was Paxil for most of 2006, not a mood stabilizer, but he thought it would address the depression and generalized anxiety. It helped a bit at first, but then the side effects outweighed the benefits. Weight gain, inability to orgasm to name a few. So I went off of that one as well.

I will say that I don't experience any symptoms that would require hospitalization. I've never had my bi-polar symptoms land me in jail or in court. I do not suffer from hallucinations nor delusions and I am not suicidal.

I can definitely feel the mood swings more clearly now that I'm on my own. My relationship had become so toxic, so volatile, so draining and unfulfilling, I was numb to my own feelings most of the time.

The next few weeks and months will be interesting for me. I want to understand how I function. I am trying to keep a journal and get a better understanding about how the up's and down's impact my work, friendships, responsibilities, self-care, etc.

Meds? Huge question. I have 5 weeks of sample Abilify that I can start taking at any point. I'm not exactly sure why I haven't started yet. It's not denial, maybe a bit of fear. I do wonder how much of my bi-polar symptoms and behaviors set the scene for the relationship to end. I do see some patterns in my behavior that have spanned several relationships.

But for now, I am in close contact with my p-doc, a counselor, and am trying everyday to live life in a more aware state. Once my day to day life slips back into a routine, hopefully it will become clear if the symptoms are something that I can manage with various healthy cognitive coping techniques, or if medication is really necessary.

I guess knowing that I'm not a danger to myself or others and I don't destroy property or break laws, I'm approaching my doctor's recommendation to take Abilify in the same manner that I would take any other medication that has a 'psycho-tropic effect'. It's really tough being in this spot. I will not let these symptoms get in the way of being loving and being loved. If I cannot manage to stay centered within the storm, I will use the tools (medication) that is suggested... until then, I'm just going to focus on getting the lawn mowed sometime this week. (The ex mowed it twice a week forever... I now reclaim my lawn along with my life.)

And for what it's worth, the challenges that our relationship faced were definitely not all based on aspects of my bi-polar diagnosis and symptoms. I take responsibility for my 50%. No kids, we weren't married, so it's not a terribly tragic tale.



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04/06/2008 23:14
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Well, it sounds like you have your shit together, but you're playing a pretty serious game with your life here. Ride, have you ever had, even one incident of just wantin to get more sleep because you feel so tired and unrested? Have you ever just felt really sad but can't quite put your finger on the, why? Have you ever really gotten pissed off at something to the point of punching a wall?? Well I haven't for years and years. Ya know why I haven't? Because I religiously take my meds. Without them I am ONE MEAN WOMAN! Have you ever tried a med long enough to see if it works. I don't mean complaining and changing it after a

short while. I mean like a year or so? The reason I am dead serious with my meds is because I remember my hell before them.

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We forget to be thankful.
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04/07/2008 00:01
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Hi Gloria,

Thanks, it's important for me to have my shit together. And I am here on this forum broaching topics that don't typically come up in conversation with friends and co-workers because I am painfully aware that I may really be suffering and causing others to suffer unnecessarily.

wantin to get more sleep because you feel so tired and unrested? YES, on most mornings.

Have you ever just felt really sad but can't quite put your finger on the, why? YES, on multiple occasions in varying degrees of intensity.

Have you ever really gotten pissed off at something to the point of punching a wall?? YES, but I don't punch walls because I don't want to break any bones. I'm more of an object thrower and a screamer.

I was on Lamictal for a full year, but never achieved a dosage that would work for me.

I hate the fact that I can be ONE MEAN WOMAN sometimes. One of the reasons that I ended my relationship was that I couldn't bear with how shitty I felt after being harsh and rude to my ex.

Maybe meds hold the answer. I am open to that. It's just important to me that I get to a point of balance after this huge change before I'm comfortable embarking on another.

Point taken, thanks.

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04/07/2008 00:11
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I'm proud of the way you're focused on managing your illness and reclaiming your life (and lawn). Good luck to you!!!!
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