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03/29/2008 08:35
red1965
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P8nt, when you get those suacidal thoughts, do not be alone! Find someone to be with you, no matter how much you want to isolate. Tell doc what you are feeling, they can't help if they don't know.

Thought for the day, how much better is the world because you are here? You are here with us and you are special to us. You have a wealth of knowledge that you share on here with others trying to survive or help a loved one survive. Not only that you are our friend.

While it is hard for you to understand the non-bipolar perspective it is just as hard for us to understand the bipolar perspective. With the comon thread of helping each other to overcome these hurdles we are here every day learning and teaching each other, this is what MDJunction is all about.

BIG HUGS TO YOU! YOU ARE NOT ALONE, NOR WILL YOU EVER BE WITH US HERE!

GOD BLESS

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03/29/2008 08:58
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Dear Pbgirl, Sounds like Dad was feeling a little left out and wanted attention, that might be a man thing(sexist coming out in me).

Now your going back to live somewhere with only $40. in bank and no prospect for income...where you had food and a roof over your head with folks??? Don't know...hope you will be ok....

At times our feelings are so raw that the least thing that most people would just let roll off their shoulders affects us deeply.

I have to be careful how I talk to my son when he is like that, so I know the other side....although, I am bipolar too. He will get his feelings hurt and then I feel badly that I hurt them.

Hope your are doing better. Hugs, Norma

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03/29/2008 10:58
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p8nt ok you got me at first with this post not gonna lie to you i was like your kidden right because i am not bi polar and well i love someone who is.You see i too have a bad relationship well none now with my father and your right it hurts. now the bi polar in you gets you over the limit in emotions and that i wont ever understand because like gloria said in another post if we understood then we too would be bi polar..sounds to me your dad was just very rude to you period and my feelings would have been hurt yes,i just would not have internalized them.No we dont understand i will give you that but in defense of us non bi polar people we are the egg shell walkers gotta watch every thing we do in hopes that you wont freak out that is a painful life as well feeling like you can never do enough to help or make it right and always hearing you dont understand so please dont think im disreguarding how you feel because your feelings are not wrong but please look at it from our prospective you guys can have bad days for weeks and put us through hell but if we have a bad day we have to controll it so we dont hurt you not real fair...but your dad was just mean to you and im sorry you did feel the way you did..i hope you have a better day..be blessed :~dragonfly
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03/29/2008 12:32
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Hi p8nt,

I understand how you are feeling. I have those reactions, alot. It is part of the illness. No matter how people meant to say things, I can take it personally. I react to my boyfriend that way. When, I am going through stress, I get triggered. Before, I got stable on my meds,I was all over the place. I would drop into depression, and feel the way you are feeling. Now it's not so overwhelming, but, I can still react this way. It just happened yesterday. Because of being in therapy, and learning how to not react, and knowing it's not real, and the meds, I was able to stay calm, and allow it to pass. I get really frustrated with this illness. I have come along way in accepting that I don't react to things normally.

My depression causes me to feel worthless, and guilty, and like a burden.

I tend to think other people are judging me, and feel guilty for no reason.

I have hid out in my bed while going through what you just went through. I have demanded my boyfriend to let me out of the car, and when, I got out, I walked across town, and was going to stay in a homeless shelter, because, I felt, I was such a failure, and that he and my kids would be better off with out me. I think our parents can be a trigger, our children, busy stores. Lack of money is a big one. I have become disabled, and was too embarrassed to tell anyone. I took it as a sence of failure.

My parents had strong values about work, and being able to support their children. I felt guilty. My mom is really supportive, and understands. I am still afraid to tell my dad. The truth is. This is an illness, and it can affect every area in our lives. If we don't get help it will just get worse. It doesn't matter what others think. It's not our fault. All we can do is try to get better, and stable, so we can live our lives.

I have accepted, that not everyone is going to understand. My boyfriend still doesn't quite get it. He is getting better, and lets me know, that he isn't mad at me. I am still highly sensitive to his moods. I have learned, that when, I feel myself cycling over something that someone did, I remove myself, and try to calm down.

I think you did the right thing, by going home. I would, tell your doctor if I were you. I coped with that for a long time. I finally got my meds adjusted to the right level last week, and it's such a relief, to not have my illness keep me from enjoying my life, and the people in it.

I never knew when, my illness what rear it's ugly head and ruin everything. Okay, I am done rambling....LOL Hang in there, when You get stable, you will be aamzed how good life can be. It takes time, sometimes. If you keep communicating with your dodtor, and taking care of you it will get better.

God Bless,Gypsy
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03/29/2008 13:32
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Hey p8ntballgrl,

I totally do the listening to music until I can't stand it anymore. Recently I have been listening to OneRepublic's "Stop and Stare" if you want the video link on yahoo is http://new.music.yahoo.com/videos/--56660470 This song is so beautiful, and says exactly how I feel right now at this point in my life. I listened to that song by Colbie Caillat, and it is beautiful. She reminds me of Jack Johnson. There was a time when all I listened to was Jack Johnson. There is something very soothing about his music.

About the doc calling a group session with your parents, if you tell your doc that you don't feel comfortable with that he/she will not force you to do so. If they do then get a new doc. I didn't think bp were treated with immersion therapy, so it doesn't sound like a good idea if you are not into it.

Angela

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03/29/2008 13:55
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next time i will just post this type of thing in my diary entries.

it seems now that i've had some sleep and taken the rest of my meds(couldn't take them and drive last night) I shouldn't have posted this but just put it in my diary.

The voice inside my head doesn't like you either!

My journey to the grave will not be with an attractive well preserved body, I will skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand and wine in the other totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO WHAT A RIDE"


Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures.
Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in you face to frown.
BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap that mother@#?!&! upside the head....ha ha

You have to love it.Cause you know we've all thought it.
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03/29/2008 16:38
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P8NT please do not ever feel that you can not post anything and I mean anything on the site, this is what we are here for, to reach and help each other, some of the folks might not read the diary section of this site, and what you share on here, might just be what someone needs to hear to help them get through a very rough time, please please let us help you.. if you are feeling suicidal, get to the nearest hospital, we care and we want you here with us..
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03/29/2008 17:55
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Hi Y'all,

There alot of us here with bipolar, and those who are spouses of bipolar. Sometimes spouses of bipolars share about their pain, and some of us can relate, and some can't. I tend to try to respect what others post as their feelings, and think everyone has a right to vent bipolar or not. Some non bipolars post things that are disturbing to me, but, I respect their right to their experience.

I feel ppeople with bipolar are allowed to do this, too. It might be disturbing, sometimes to non bipolars. But, I think we need to respect eachothers right to express their feeling, and find suppport in a safe environment with out judgement. This illness is hard enough to live with for both sides.I personally can empathize with both sides of the fence. I personally can lets promote, love and peace. I would like to let p8nt know, that, I appreciated reading your post, and and hope you continue to share your feeling. We are here for.

God Bless,Gypsy
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03/29/2008 18:29
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If your dad is bipolar too, then he could be the same as you i.e where you can be oversensitive to things when you are under stress, he could be too. I read somewhere that bipolar manifests itself in the same way among the same family members. I thought that was so interesting and could explain a lot why my dad and my sister are always rubbing each other the wrong way -its because they are both the same in the way their disease manifests itself.

My dad could get very slighted about small things. One time he and my mom had a fight about pillows for the bed in Sears. Or rather he was arguing and my mom, in her way, (she was used to him after 50 years of marriage) and she just ignored him. She called a couple of days later to say he really liked the new pillows! But I think the real reason he was arguing about such small stuff was because he was so stressed about the big issue (her cancer) and it came out in nit picking. Maybe your dad is concerned about you and does not know how to express it.

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03/29/2008 20:06
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Hi CherylAnn and P8nt,

CherylAnn, I love your insight about being bothered by something bigger. I didn't realize that bp manifests itself in similar ways within families. This makes sense, though, especially in the sense of environmental factors.

P8nt- Like everyone said, you are not inconveniencing anyone on here with your posts. I actually like reading your posts bc we have so much in common. It makes me see myself from a different perspective, and for your sharing I thank you. Hang in there. Everyday is a new day (and thank God for that!).

Angela

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