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03/27/2008 06:59
Tina302
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Congrats Jenn on this HUGE step with your bf. It's great to hear that your bf is finally accepting responsibility for himself and taking care of his illness. What kinds of things did you do to encourage him?
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03/27/2008 10:39
jenn14
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Thanks Tina. We were already in couples counseling and she was the one that told him he had sx of bp and referred him to a pdoc. I just printed alot of info on the illness for him and tried to talk to him about it. At first he was in denial and I think just really scared-maybe embarressed. He knew deep down inside something was wrong but didnt really want it to be. I went thru all the info with him and tried to point out to him the behaviors he's done that coincide with the illness. Then he just kept saying "yeah yeah I'll make the appt" After 2-3wks no appt I told him if he doesnt get help and get on meds I'm gone. It had been so emotionally draining for 2yrs and I just couldnt do it anymore and I knew without meds things would never change and we would never move foward together. He agreed and finally made the appt. and we went. I was so proud of him bc I know how hard it is for him. I love him with all my heart and intend to stand by and support him.( As long as he sticks to the boundaries we have agreed upon) Thanks Tina
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03/27/2008 10:46
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Thanks Carmen and Rkc. I'm so happy to hear more and more ppl have had very good results with the lithium. At first when she said it it scared me bc I know its a very old and potent drug and can have alot of side effects-but so far everyone seems to have had wonderful results. He'll start it this weekend and we'll see. I will be watching him very carefully. He's the type who doesnt really say how he feels-so I've become very good at monitoring his mood carefully. Yes we will keep all appts and gets labs drawn- I know the doc said the level can get too high(toxic) Thanks for the info. Good luck to you Rkc at the doc. Let us know

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03/27/2008 20:07
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Hi Jenn14,

I was just reading up on Lithium, and found some info about ti. I thought this might help you and your S/O a little.

http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/bipolar/trillian/ lithium_2.htm

God Bless,Gypsy
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03/27/2008 22:55
jenn14
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Great. Thanx Gypsy, I'll check it out!
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03/28/2008 03:07
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Jenn I am really happy for you that things are working out, my husband is suppose to start some counseling next week, and although he isn't bipolar, he needs some serious help, and I am hoping that he doesn't bullshit his way through this.. he's not suicidal, but he gets me to feeling homicidal..

Very tempted to sit down and compose a letter to his therapist outlining all that he needs to address, I know she can't talk with me about it, but there is no law that I am aware of that says she can't listen.

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03/29/2008 11:44
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Carmen you are absolutely right!!! And I know how you feel. I insisted to my BF that I go into the docs office with him bc I knew he wouldnt tell her everything and the whole truth, and thats so important bc he could have been misdiagnosed otherwise. When he had his "episodes" he also would lie to or not be honest with our therapist. I knew that so I would call her and tell her what was really going on. I know its sounds like the "psycho/controlling" girlfriend but the point is for him to get help. How the hell is that gonna happen if they dont know the truth. Actually it was me telling her everything this last episode that led her to believe he is in fact BP and now we can get REAL help. I know at the time he didnt like it-but I know he knows now that I did it bc I love him and want him to get better. Another way to make sure the truth is comming out-do couples therapy. We have a therapist that we see together but then sometimes I do individual with her and then he does individual. I think its been really helpful(and then I tell her everything in front of him) Good Luck Carm!!

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03/29/2008 14:14
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Hey Jenn, I am glad to hear that you have made progress with him, it's wonderful, I simply don't know about bothering with couples counseling with mine anymore, been there and done that more times than I can count, I've done my best to get across to him the things, demons as I call them that he needs to face, he doesn't want too and there is nothing I can do to help him realize that without facing those demons, he can't grow and get well.

It does sound like the "psycho/controlling" girlfriend, lol, that is one of the biggest fights I find myself in at the moment.. do I have to step in and control his life? force him to get the help that he needs? which would not work anyway, till he is willing to at less admit he has a problem, or do I just give up and let him fall on his face? we're both alcoholics in recovery, me at 15 yrs and him at 10 now, for us as alcoholics, no matter who and how many times someone told us we had a problem, we would not have admitted it and gotten help, we had to hit bottom, and face our own demons, being a bipolar although I didn't know it at the time, it was a life or death matter for me to face mine and face them early in my path towards sobriety.. without seeking help for my drinking, I don't believe I would have ever gotten help for the bipolar..

I don't believe he is bipolar as he doesn't show any of the text book symptoms, nor does he show what I have experienced, or what I have read on here, but he does show the passive/aggressive traits and some PTSD, whether service related or childhood related, I am not sure, but I know he has major demons that have yet to be faced.. if he is passive/aggressive, then I don't believe that he has ever done the steps that a alcoholic does to aid in their recovery properly, he might have done them on paper, but I don't believe he has done them in his heart which is where we have to, to fully start on the path to recovery.. and that means he is what is called a dry drunk, and I am probably the only thing that stands between him and his first drink, and it's only a matter of time before even I am not enough to keep him from it.

My heart is really hurting right now, as this morning, there was something that was getting to him, I could tell as he tends to turn snappy when something is bothering him, I asked him to talk with me about it, and got snapped at for my efforts, I was told he wasn't ready to talk with me, so I said ok, later in the morning I decided to take a nap, I had been up since about 530am, and I went and laid down, he came and took a nap later, and then got up, my alarm went off, I got up and he wasn't in the room, no biggie, I went to use the restroom, and it's right next to the computer room where he was, as I was sitting on the pot I over heard him talking to someone about what was going on with him, and what he was experiencing, it broke my heart that he felt like he could not talk with me about it..

It made me realize that I am his wife in name only, and when it comes to the sharing and caring that is suppose to be between two people I don't fall into that space in his life, a fight we have had before and I tried to deal with in counseling, in his life I am nothing more than a meal ticket, a maid, and a whore.. don't get me wrong, I am grateful that he could feel like he could talk with someone about what is going on with him, I just wish I could be included in that group.. it's like having him help me here at the house, prior to my suicide attempt back in July of last year, I was the one doing all the work supporting this family, I was the one doing all the house work, and cooking, his excuses were he hurts to much, he does have health challenges, I admit, recognize and respect this, I'm not asking that he makes 30.00 a hour, just that he brings in enough to help with the household expenses, and if he can't work at a "job" that he at least help around the house, I don't demand a spotless, eat off the floor kinda place, but at least something that I would not be embarrassed to ask someone over, he could not even do this, he would claim he didn't know what I wanted to eat so he could not fix dinner, I eat the same things as he does, except for his pickles and hot peppers.. while he had all these challenges to helping me (us as a family) he would break his neck getting over to help someone else.. another fight we have fought repeatedly and tried to deal with in counseling, didn't work.

We were offered more counseling after another of our fights, and I contacted our Church about seeing if he could get help through them, they offered us couples counseling and I refused to go, told him he could if he wanted but I wasn't going to waste their time or mine as I knew it would be like before, he would be good for a couple of days and then it would be right back to the same shit as before, why bother?

Now that I feel that I have been literally smacked upside the head with the fact that I am nothing in his life than a bed warmer, I am at the point as what to do with this revelation, do I continue to be a bed warmer, or do I get out and just get on with my life, without all the stress and bullshit?

I don't know.. I really don't, sorry about carrying on so, it's just nice to have a place you can go and talk with someone..

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03/30/2008 09:40
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AWWWW Carmen I am sooo sorry to hear all of this and going on. I agree with what you said that if he never really got to the real root of all his "demons" then his issues will never be resolved and it could very well be you ARE the only thing standing between him and another drink. I know how much it must have hurt to hear him confiding in someone else about his problems. Did you happen to speak with him after or ask him why he didnt feel he can confide in you? Carmen I get the impression he's not the easiest person to talk to but your feelings matter too!! If your feeling like your only role in his life at this point is a bed warmer its time for a MAJOR TALK. You shouldnt have to go on feeling like that in your own home. Maybe he will explain to you that your all wrong, maybe he'll tell you he's changed. Either which way you- you need to put it out there that thats how you feel. Its too important not to. You deserve to feel loved and happiness. This type of stress is too much for you especially with your BP. When my relationship with my BF was sinking fast bc of the BP I was an emotional mess. Depressed, crying, anxious all the time. It was killing me. I would try to talk to him but he would just snap at me or be defensive. After 2yrs of it and feeling like a shell of who I used to be I said enough. I was hurting and dying inside and trying to talk to him day after day and nothing would change. He wouldnt even hear me or my pain.That was why I finally said to him that he either get help or I'm gone-I just couldnt go on like that anymore. He saw my suffering and his own and took the steps to try to fix things. Had he not, we wouldnt be together right now. Now I know your hubby is not the one with the BP but other than that, sounds like a very similiar situation. Did he call the therapist and make an appt? Carmen I suggest you sit down with him and tell him calmly how you feel. Tell him you overheard him on the phone and it hurt you and tell him you feel like a bed warmer. Your marriage should not revolve around walking on eggshells for him. If you have a problem say it. If he chooses to ignore how you feel-thats a problem. Then you may want to think about the things in your life that are hurting you or preventing you from truly being happy. Oh yeah--he can get up off his ass and do something around the house too!!!Hugs to you-Let us know.
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