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03/20/2008 19:50
amykirouac
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[b]I have had my 15 year old nephew for almost two weeks. The first week it was just him and this week his mother, sister and baby brother are here. I do love having them here. A year ago this April I had gastric bypass surgery and so far I have lost about 112pounds so far. At this moment I fucking hate everything! I hate food looking at it makes me want to puke, I hate my family, friends, husband, eating, sleeping, talking, being alone and not being alone, therapy, medication, cleaning, laundry! I can't help it!!!!! My therapist is getting tired of me, he says I am to passive and I let people walk all over me. That is true. He is a great therapist and really helps me a lot. I don't know..

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03/20/2008 20:06
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Amy I'm sorry you are having such a bad time .Wow you have lost a lot of weight congrats on that!!! having 4 extra people in the house can be very stressfull!! I wish tere was something I could say to make you feel better I'm glad you have a therapist you can talk to has he given you any statagys to be less passive?I'm also glad you come here it is a good place to vent .hope you feel better soon.AMOM
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03/20/2008 20:07
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therapist is right, set boundaries for people, length of time for stay etc. I used to let people do that to me...I was afraid they wouldn't like me...finally, figured out if they weren't going to like me it was ok...said no when I needed to...and you know what??? Everyone was ok with it...got a few disgruntled replies, but, felt better about myself...
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03/20/2008 20:08
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Oh about the laundry...anyone who is over the age of 12 has to do their own...you just do yours and hubby, get him to help too, mine folds clothes which i hate
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03/20/2008 21:59
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Hi Amy,

Being bipolar, I have a hard time with being in crowds. I get clausterphobic. I have a hard time when we have sleep overs for my kids. I have to do things to take care of myself or I want to yell at everyone. I have a habit of not wanting to be rude. I am always worried about making anyone uncomfortable. So, I take time out for me. I go do errands, and breath, and get quiet time. This helps me not get to where you are.

God Bless,Gypsy
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03/21/2008 03:28
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Hi, Amy, as much as you might not want to hear it, your therapist is right, you are allowing others to walk all over you, it's a behavior known as "people pleasing" because of our low self esteem, we feel we can not tell others No or they won't like us, and we feel we have to be liked by all.. it doesn't help matters any, that we are taught if we don't say yes and think about ourselves, then we are being selfish..

We are not being selfish by setting up boundaries, and by saying "No" practice saying No in front of the mirror, and then start saying no to people, like the ones that want you to take on responsibly you just don't have time to do.. like helping out by babysitting, or working on some committee. Let the others know where the washer is, they want clean clothes, let them do their own, you have the Sister in law there? no reason she can't help prepare the meals and do some house work, it's not like she is staying in a hotel, where there are maids to do it all for her, and if she don't like it? recommend a good hotel next time she plans on visiting..

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03/21/2008 04:20
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Had a bit of a chuckle reading these posts. Believe me you do not have to be bipolar to feel like spending all day yelling at husband and kids! I have a horrible cold right now, and daughter (teenager) wants to have a whole pile of friends over. If I don't let her do this, we will end up driving her all over the place. I feel like strangling somebody, but instead will set some boundaries about how long kids can stay, and how much she has to do. Obviously she will have to clean up after her friends, but she might also have to wash the kitchen floor. (Although I don't know why I bother with some of these chores as a lot of times I end up doing them over - My son informed me the other day that his sister has apparently set a world record for fastest floor washing - entire floor in 2 minutes, because she was a) late for something b) didn't want to do it in the first place.

So definately set some boundaries and block some time out for yourself.



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03/21/2008 05:03
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On another note - something I found curious and was looking for insight. I think Carmen mentioned about 'people pleasing' being a component of bipolar as it relates to low self esteem that can be a result of being bipolar.

I was just thinking about my sister in that context. She never makes any effort to please people. If anything she goes out of her way to upset them. She used to be a people pleaser as a child, and then when puberty hit, and she first developed her bipolar, she went through a complete personality change. I can see where she has low self esteem, but it manifests itself as having to be right about everything (even if she's wrong.)

In her world everyone except her is incompetant, and she has no shame in letting you know that you are incapable and worthless. She also has no shame about trashing someones reputation i.e. she has a hate on for the staff at the nursing home where my dad is staying and some of the thing that have been said are unreal. Right now she is accusing the staff doctor of being incompetant and the reason he can get away with this is because he is having an affair with the nursing director. Its like a soap opera. Not to say things like this don't happen in real life, its just that we have seen this pattern many many times before.

Last year she refused for about 10 months to have anything to do with Dads care. My brother and I looked after everything and built a good relationship with the staff and the nursing home. Then my sister decided she wanted to be part of things again. Within 3 months she has totally destroyed all the goodwill that was built up. None of the staff want to deal with her,and the doctor has dropped my Dad off his patient roster.

So now I think she is running scared that everyone in the family will be mad at her so she is inventing reaons to justify why she had to be so nasty to the staff. So on one hand she has to reduce people down, so she can feel better. But when this eventually backfires and everyone is mad at her she has to try and do damage control and this is the only way she knows. The other thing she does is buy really expensive and inappropriate gifts.

So on the one hand, I can see where she is coming from, and why, but on the other, its very scary getting involved in her world. A person never knows what destructive forces will be unleased in their life by letting her in. I have seen people lose their jobs, their livlihoods, be sued and involved in endless litagation just by crossing paths with my sister.

I think someone else said that it sounded like she has some other personality disorder in conjunction with the bipolar - perhaps borderline.

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03/21/2008 05:30
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A lot of these things mentioned about my sister I have prob mentioned before - just sound like a broken record!!

But everytime I read something on this forum I get a new idea about why she is acting in a certain way, and it is a good place to sound things out - are we getting a better understanding of things. How will this new insight help us deal with certain situations.

Sorry for so many posts one right after the other. Had to let dog out and then let dog in and so on...

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03/21/2008 05:55
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CherylAnn, her behavior also has some ties to behavior during mania by the sound of it. When all hits a head, she goes into depression and tries to do damage control and buy everyone off. Just a thought.

People pleasing is not just related to bipolar, although my wife is a people pleaser and just can't say NO, I also tend to be a people pleaser myself but not to the extent of neglecting myself. Now one of the ways that we combat my wifes inability to say NO is I step in and say NO for her. If people get upset with me, they are just upset. I can deal with it, as my wife is not be able to deal with the pressure.

Talk to hubby about helping set these limits, when you know you should say NO but are in people pleasing mode talk to hubby about the situation and have him make the reply!

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