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03/17/2008 06:13
momof2rugrats
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I don't know what happend to myself ARGH. I slide a lil backward. Things have been building up again with my husband. I am a VERY needy person. It takes a VERY special kinda person to deal with me

I have gotten WAY better over the years about the neediness. BIG accomplishment for me!!I used to think when he wanted to do something without me, he didn't like me anymore, or I did something wrong, or he didn't want to be with me anymore. All this parent talk, for the people that followed my post. I believe it stems from that.

Weds- Him, his brother and a friend- 4 wheeler riding. Quitting work before 3pm. Meeting me at daughters ball practice. We were going to go walking and bbq. He didn't end up getting out of work until after 4, ended up hurting his foot. Couldn't go walking. He was at a company he had to drop parts of at 6pm, we bbq'd. I was pissed off because he hurt himself. I had NO sympathy?WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?????

Now, I don't care that he does things with his friends and his brother on his own. But when he says certain times things are going to happen and whatever, Then that is where I expect. I get things in my head like for example. Saturday he said he was working until 3pm IF IF they made it that long. And after work him, his brothers and a bunch of buddies were going 4 wheeler riding AGAIN. I called at 5 and they hadn't even left. So I said a not so nice word and hung up on him. Took the kids out to eat because I wasn't sitting around waiting on him. I just thought he would get done early and we would have family time?

Sunday - More frigging 4 wheelers. This time its a family thing. We go about 15 minutes out of town. Went with friends. We get there, get crap unloaded. Realize we dont have the key to daughters 4 wheeler. There is all kinds of stuff for her to ride but she wants HERS. Now, mind you she has Bipolar so this throws her into a raging uncontrollable fit. I didn't want to go in the first place. I was still pissed from Saturday and Weds letting things build. So I have husband griping at daughter because she wont quit crying, son yelling at daughter because she wont quit crying. I screamed at the top of my lungs and said something that I never should have said to my son and would NEVER EVER say. I will never forgive myself. And I made sure that he new I was sorry and he knew I would never talk to him like that. We are ok now but. I took off walking for home, the 2 kids were screaming. Glen was pissed off. He loaded everything back up and we went home.

I'm so sick and tired of I work my ass off so I should get to ride 4 wheelers when I want, and every time I ask him if he is working saturday or not, he throws the disney world trip up in my face. I told him to cancel it. I'm so tired of trying to fight for him. It lasts for a few months and it goes right back to this. His phone rings off the hook, I can't even say a whole sentence without his phone ringing?I feel like throwing it in a mud puddle or just smashing it with a hammer into a million little bits and pieces. And when he is home he works hard he sits on the couch and then he is sleeping or he is doing paper work on the computer. Or if we talk, we talk about his brother?????

I talked to him yesterday about everything. We were kinda ok, but I kept reverting back so I was still kinda touchy.We went to dinner. He didn't tell me he left his phone at home until after we had gotten in the car. I did notice it didnt ring or BUZZZ. He told me he would start leaving his phone at home when we went out & he would start turning his ringer off at a certain time. When we got home after an hour he had 8 missed calls?8 times that would have interuppted our dinner??

Ok, so, I still feel like even tho I talked to him I'm not 100% ok. I just feel like I am stuck in the middle of no where & I don't feel important to him anymore?Everytime he says he will change, I dont really think he can.

Amber

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03/17/2008 08:17
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Are you bipolar? I understand how you feel about plans going awry. You just count on stuff to be as planned and throwing a wrench into the works makes it personal. Like it's an insult to you. It's happened to me so many times. Have a spat with hubby and then end up riding off in silence, or bickering still. I understand the guilt of saying something that you didn't mean to your child. I've done it before. The most important thing to convey to your child is that adults make mistakes too. Apologize telling him you shouldn't have done it, you were angry and it spilled out. You really didn't mean to call him a name, it was a mistake. It's all you can do cause once it's out the child feels hurt, naturally. Showing him that even mommies make mistakes will make you seem more human and will teach him that everyone messes up every now and then.

Have you thought of counseling with your husband? I have been going since January with mine and it has opened up doors and explained to him about my disease. Now he can more clearly see when I am getting moody and has a name to put to it.

Somedays it's not worth chewing through the restraints!

"They've got me on some medication
My point of balance was askew
It keeps my temperature from rising
My blood is pumping through my veins" Garbage

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03/17/2008 08:53
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MsJ - Yes, I am Bipolar II. I apologized to my son & I hugged & cried & we cried together. I told him how sorry I was. And he said he knew that I would never talk to him that way.

We may need the counseling. He makes promises that don't last. I no that he is overloaded with stress, I truely no that.

I just don't feel that it's fair to be put on the back burner. I no that he has to work to provide, but I no that he really doesn't have to work as much as he does. When I want him I don't feel that it's fair that he has things to throw up in my face so that he gets to do what he wants when he wants?

I just find us growing further & further apart. I don't feel involved in his life & I really don't know what to do about it?



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03/17/2008 10:13
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Hi momof2rugrats,

I understand what you are going through. My boyfriend and I have been through this , and he finally got it after having to talk to him about it at least 20 times.My bopyfriend used to spend all of his time with his brother, and sister, or at work or he was on a gambling binge. He finallly stopped all of this, and now makes us a priority. We were finally able to come half way with eachother. I think, when, i have these normal relationship issues, my bipolar makes it more intense.I am not able to let go of things as easy as other people.

I have also made mistakes with my kids.

Hang in there. I am in therapy, and it has helped so much.

God Bless,Gypsy
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03/17/2008 15:45
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hey Amber, sorry you have had such a rough time, try to remember that sometimes, shit happens, things we can't plan on no matter what we have said would happen, you just need to learn to bend with these, and be flexible, with your mood not being in the best place, then having to deal with your daughter bipolar, it's no wonder you said something to your son that you should not have, you've done all you can to correct it, your husband has agreed to turn off his phone at a certain time, and has agreed to leave it at home if you go out, keep him to this, what time does he normally get home? 6 or 7? if it is like that, then say 8pm, would be a good time for him to turn off his phone, if you are out on Saturday on a family thing, the phone should be turned off, or at least put on vibrate.. that way you can still have a good time, and he can check it later.. try to remember he has to have some free time too, as he has a lot of things on his shoulders.. I know he loves you and your kids..and I am sure you do too.. he just went with you to your doctors, that was a huge step for him in learning to understand what you and your daughter are suffering from.. have you got her on meds yet?
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03/18/2008 06:32
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We worked things out..As Gypsy, I am not able to let things go as easy.

I told him with everything he has going, I just don't feel that he needs me anymore. I told him, I didn't care that he did things on his own. I know that he deserves it. He needs that time on his own. He doesn't need me & the kids shoved up his nose all the time. But, him needing his time on his own is becoming more and more.

And then he tells me he wants me to spend more time with him at work. He says that it seems that I always have something better to do. Well, I will tell ya. I would probably be on disability if I didn't have him. I have had 30 jobs or more & they just never work out. I just go plain bezerk. I can't handle things at home, i feel like I'm dying inside, I am a monster, I am so mean & hateful. He is a machinist & he likes his work. I am a girlie girl. Its greasy & stinky. And well, maybe I should get over it because it's what brings the money home. And maybe I am just sounding like a spoiled brat AGAIN. Why do I have to work in his profession?I am on medication and I am trying to get better. I love being with kids & working in childcare. He wants me up there and interested in what he is doing but?Why can't I have my own thing?

Carmen, I am going to call the family Dr. today. Glen wanted to wait until we found a child psychiatrist. Our therapist has been looking with no luck. If/when she does get a call back she said its about 6 month wait?Katie has been getting worse. It's been her wanting to do things she knows she ABSOLUTELY "CANNNOT" do. So its almost like she is picking a fight with me?I tell her no a million times & then the last time she says 'so, you aren't going to let me'? I thought which NO didn't you get?It is awful. And then I get an attitude because it's one thing after another. And then she says 'EVERYONE IN THIS HOUSE IS MEAN TO ME'. SO its that 'its everyone else, its not me' thing you no???

Ok, I think I am done rambling..Thanks to everyone that listened

Amber

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03/18/2008 11:07
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Hi,Amber,

You are not a maniac. I feel the same way, sometimes. I don't want to work with my boyfriend. He is a painter, and is very helpful with bringing the money in. I would rather have my own thing to do. Bringing me to work with him to spend more time with him, does not replace quality time. My dad used to do that. he woulf bring us to work with him to spend time with us.

I have a child with a mental illness, too. It can be vey stressful.

After some serious dug a wars with my boyfriend he finally balances out his time. he makes us a priority, now. he now participates in the care of our kids. We spend time with eachother.

Sure we get lost in the craziness of our life. But, we eventually feel it, and get back to what's really important.

It really helps me to find a way to get time for me. To have things that make me happy. Separate from the kids, and him. It is also okay to want to be important to your husband, to want attention. You don't have to feel bad for asking for it, and not wanting to go to work with him to get it. Just because, we are bipolar doesn't mean, we don't have valid needs, and wants. I think the bipolar just makes all this stuff more overwhelming. Parenting is stressful, relationships can be stressful, life can be hard. I just needed to find ways to take care of me in the midst of it all.

God Bless,Gypsy


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03/18/2008 12:30
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Hi Amber. I'm sorry youve had a hard time lately. First of all you ARE NOT a monster, or mean , or hateful. You werent mad at him bc he hurt his foot. You were mad bc you felt hurt and disappointed bc you were looking foward to the walk with the family. I am very much like you and my bf is the BP one. I EXPECT that if my bf tells me we'll be getting together around 3p(lets say) that we'll ACTUALLY be getting together around 3p--and if I dont hear from him until 5p yeah I'm gonna be pissed too. I think its rude and inconsiderate. And IT IS!!!Yes it does make you sit around and wait, of course!!! What are you gonna do, go do something else when you guys have plans??/ No bc its rude. I totally agree with that. Situations like that can be avoided if he had made a simple call to you by 3 or 3:30 to explain that he'll be working later than he thought or whatever. Its called plain old "consideration". And as fart as this four wheelin crap- yes I agree that everybody needs some alone time to touch base with themselves and maybe his friends but 3days a week???? Thats rediculous!! He is a husband and father of two and hes running around "playin" with his friends like he doesnt have a care in the world. WHY? Bc he works?? Bullcrap! And how dare him throw that excuse in your face so he can just go out with friends whenever he wants. Hes puttin you guys on the back burner. Youre not being manic right now. Your stressin bc your upset about him not prioritizing you and the children like he should and youre baring the brunt at home(and trying to manage your own illness and your daughters) and its not right!! OK he agreed to leave the phone off sometimes- Big deal. I mean I guess its a start but I think you have a right to feel the way you do. I think you guys DEFINATELY should do some couples counseling. I think it would be very helpful in the two of you gettin a better understanding of how the other is feeling. Like I said, I am very much like you( and my guy alittle like yours) and weve been doing couples couseling for 9months now. It has really helped, sometimes I think even more helpful for people like me and you who are sensitive to the way we feel and need to get it out and get our point across to them to really feel better. I hope you guys do that. In the meantime I think it would be a good idea if you two sit down and come to an agreement that you are both comfortable with as far as his time out with friends and away from the family. I dont think it should be anymore than 2nights a week(really I think 1). He has a family and needs to put into it. At the same time you should pick your days that you get out and go do whatever you want--away from the kids a couple of hours. You need that too!!! Its only fair. Go out and do whatever-get with a girlfriend, go get a pedicure whatever. Just get out and RELAX. You deserve it. That will probably help ur hubby to understand alittle better that youre a PERSON too!!! Good luck hon. Talk to him calmly when the kids are in bed. Write down alittle schedual you both can agree on. It might help. Yes at times we need to be (try) alittle more flexible but he has to keep up with his responsabilities to his family. We are all here for you when you need to vent.
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03/18/2008 14:58
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hi, Amber, you are not a monster, you just want some of his time. that isn't too hard or too much to ask. i feel like you and i have something in commen. i am also a real "needy" person as well. i have went to spending all of my time with my hubby to barely spending 3 hours a day with him. it is a real hard transission. but, it can be done. i do strongly agree with everyone stating that the daughter needs counseling. how old is she? i am glad that you made up with your son. when he gets older, he will realize that people make mistakes and say things that they don't mean.

my husband seems to want to spend all his free time with his friend and his wife then spend with me. his friend has 2 bratty a** kids that i can't stand. his wife is bipolar like me, so we constantly clash. so, i just stay away. it is soo hard when plans get trashed and ruined, specially if our men forget that they already made plans with us. it is so agervating, just try to hang in there and hey, sometimes, it may be easier if you make plans expecting his to be without you. that way, it does look like you aren't just waiting around for him. i have done that from time to time and it really puts my hubby in check.

also, it may be benificial if you make extra keys for the 4-wheelers and you hold on to them. so that way, you can go whenever you want. or sit down with him and you two make plans on a certain day that he can have the 4-wheeler and the next weekend (for example) you get it. kinda like a custody arangement that way everyone gets a turn. good luck to ya.

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