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02/16/2008 05:40
amberose
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I know this is out of forum, but the group is kinda small in PTSD, so I figure I would ask it here since I have seen people saying they have it.

My doc recently told me that it stems from a stressor incident that was "LIFE" threatining.

my last doc, said you get it from military combat only, dumby worked for the VA and ordinary people never going in the military get it, dumb A--

mine wasn't i guess "life" threating...

NOw I can see how people get it in the military and in everyday life like a bad car accident or a rape or even a hold up... whatever it may be that was "life" threatening.

see she thinks I may have it only from when I was raped at 15, yes I had it, but not very long, as you see, I was point blank passed out, after drinking my first time, and they gave us straight tequila in GLASSES, full glasses! I got over it in a matter of maybe 2 years, I blamed myself for a few years, by the time I opened up to my mom at 20 years old about it, I was well over it, and felt she sould no, before when I blamed myself, do you think I would have told a sole, no way, and i dont even remember the attack... yet the very next morning , very dazed, since I am sure I had alcohol poisoning, 5 men jumped out of a car and tried to get me and my friend into it, I thought OMG I am gonna get raped again in less then 12 hours, and luckily a cop showed up right then! I grew tough skin after that... I realized what happened doesnt even happen to everyone and that it would be very rare for it to happen again, and to never ever get my self into a situation like that, one of the biggest reasons I DONT FLIRT at all, if I have a man even approach me at the bar, I pretty much make them well aware I am not interested or even at the bar for that matter, I am hear to socialize with my friends ONLY!

anyhow back on track...

but I have felt I had it from the military, because it is called, Post "TRAMATIC" stress disorder... a tramatic event or events in my life, leaving me with anxiety, bipolar II, and panic attacks.

And bad dreams about these non-life treatening incounters... and like an agoraphobia to never go into a situation I think an occurance like that may happen.

she asked if I am jumpy, at sound and sights, and yes I am, but I think I am just weak hearted there, I dont jump becuase like someone with PTSD would think of hearing another bomb, or someone who was robbed thinks someone may be creeping up on them.

I dont know if you have to be jumpy to get the dx, but I see people on here saying they got it from a bad marrage ??? it baffles me, if you were scared to the point of death from your partner, I guess maybe, but I dont know I would think you would not with him because you would be "SCARED" and hiding like you see some people in the world "needing" to hide from them , because they know the threat is real, and yet I wouldn't think at that point you have PTSD from the marrage, your hiding from a real threat.

I dont know I am just so confused because I am with a new doc of about 1 year and she wont even give me my dx of bipolar which I was already getting litium from my last doc before her.

she at least started me on lemectal, but took my kalonipin away and she knows my anxiety is getting worst.

she wanted to have me on a "no med" therapy, she belives in self healing, and thinks even Bipolar can self learn to be normal, I guess thats the way she feels, I am confused by her, but I hate starting another new doc , and I wouldnt want to go to the last one he always yelled at me, cause I would be late and MANIC (i think he had no patience for mania, yet he is the DOC?) and he I didn't feel dx me right the first time, he gave me lithium for BP II and later changed dx to NOS when I went to suicidal idea

WTF

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02/16/2008 05:53
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i would agree that you need to see/find a new doc.remember ,your paying them.

as for the ptsd and marraige.well it doesnt have to be a fear for your life event.this disorder pertains to any event that can be concidered truamatic.most of us supporters can relate to this.when you have this disorder one's fears of the event are overwhelming and control their daily actions.i sometimes think i suffer from this.many days i have flashbacks from things i saw my wife doing,things she said and did that seem to consume my entire thought proccess.in addition the thoughts escalade into additional fears of things that didnt happen.after awile it becomes dificult to determine what thoughts are even real. yes i will be seeing a doc for this!

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02/16/2008 06:03
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hmmmm.... well then another doc wrong, my last doc thought I had PTSD this one doesnt, but last one changed my Bipolar II, first dx'ed by him to bipolar nos

now this doc wont tell me nothing, she thinks the best therapy is not knowing what ya have and not taking meds, just therapy



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02/16/2008 06:07
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but if I leave now with no dx, it wont help my claim for disabilty either.

she says it will be sometime this year I will appeal the claim, so that means soon she will dx me, I hope, and to start over wouldn't be good the VA only gives you a year from the last claim to appeal, or you have to have all new medical records they have never seen. that relate back to the military, which can be harder

I dont pay for my doc, I get it free from the VA. since I am 30% disabled, I get free VA medical, like it's really that good, lol, my primary care physician there told me since I have a mental illness, i am not in pain, when I told him how much pain, (my 30% disablied condition, which is arthritis,) causes me. he said I dont belive that you dont not have pain, it's just people with mental illnesses dwell on them... lol A-HOLE, I wake up from my knee and back pain, tell me thats not "real" pain, if I was dwelling on it during the day like, "oh poor me, I hurt" to everyone in site bugging them , that would be dwelling, which I do not do, I keep it to myself, they see it in my limp

so I dont pay, but I dont get the best care either

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02/16/2008 06:41
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Hi amberose,

I was diagnosed with PTSD and situational depression. PTSD was caused by my marriage. It does not have to be a life threatening situation. It is a situation where you feel a complete loss of control and power. PTSD was first coined because of the military. It was only in the last 10 - 15 years that they started to recognize it in the general population. Yes, rape can be something that can cause it. You become hypervigilant. You become afraid of people. You relive it. Over and over and over again. It might not be happening. But you feel it. You begin to feel like you have no control.

Sometimes I joke around and say things like, for a real adrenal rush some people might have to jump out of an airplane, I just have to make toast. The toaster sets me off. That loud unexpected click when it is ready. It is caused by emotional pain, and can also lead into physical pain. The physical pain is also real.

Your arthritis is a separate pain. It is real. It is not caused by a mental illness. Just like my cancer was real. I did not dwell on my cancer. It was real. It was there. Just like your pain is there and it is real.

(((((((((((hugs)))))))))))

amy

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02/16/2008 08:51
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Amber, even in the VA, you can change doctors, you can insist on the best medical care available, you need to see another doctor, and don't take no for a answer, ptsd is a very real thing, and getting over something like rape is no easy thing to do, while you might be able to eventually get the fears under control somewhat, so that you can enter into a new relationship without having those fears that whole thing will never go away completely..

PTSD doesn't have to be from a life threatening cause, it can be caused by just about anything, a person who has grown up in a environment in which they were yelled at all the time, comes to fear being yelled at again, they feel that everyone in the world is going to treat them that way, so they react one of two ways generally either they develop the attack first or the people pleasing, do everything right so no one will yell personality, they too suffer from PTSD in a form..

Your pain that you feel from arthritis is very real, and I could beat the living snot out of people who don't believe it is real, the SS are the worst at that, no one can know the amount of pain that you feel as they are not in your body.. I have a disease called hidradenitis, when in flare, it is like having a golf ball full of sharp pins under your arm, breast or in between your leg 24/7, have you ever seen those seed pods from a chestnut tree, the ones with all the little spikes all over them? I have been tempted to take one of those and give it to the doctor that tells me I can't be in that much pain and tell them to take it and tape it to their balls and try to work with it.. let them experience a little bit of the pain.

Stand up and ask for the proper care you deserve

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02/16/2008 08:54
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My pdoc suggested the PTSD could be part of my problem since I have had such horrific experiences in my job: attempted student suicides, sexual assault on students, and even preventing one murder. I think it definitely has made my bipolar disorder even worse.

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02/16/2008 09:59
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it darn sure hasn't helped, are you working on this in therapy?
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02/16/2008 11:04
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Yes, I'm working on it in therapy. You wouldn't believe the day I literally talked a young man out of a murder. Well, I tried to talk him out of it, I knew I had failed, so I called his dad and IMMEDIATELY the dad showed up at school to get the boy out of the state. He knew his son, I knew his son, and there was NO DOUBT in my mind that a smart-assed young man who didn't know who he was messing with was about to be D-E-A-D!!!
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02/16/2008 13:57
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Amberose, Amberose, Amberose.....(lol) Where in God's name are you finding these QUACKS???????????????? Find a REAL Psychiatrist. You know....one with credentials....lolol For real though, you sure have some doozies. You gotta look til you find a good one. Get on line and sign up with a site that will let you get the profile and history, if you will, of a Doc. They can tell you about any disciplinary action ever taken against them and all that good stuff. Ask your Primary Doc....if you trust him...for a referral to one. Then try to somehow find a patient of this shrink to ask how he or she feels about his or her care of them. When times get tough, the tough get goin"!! Do your homework, it will pay off in the end!

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Gloria

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