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Bipolar ForumsGeneral & SupportANyone have paranoid thoughts (about friends or..)
06/29/2012 02:21 AM
madisonmatth
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Anyone here have any paranoid thoughts of friends (good friends) having ulterior motives at times, planning against you, perhaps not liking you, being upset with you etc ... Wondering if you have had these problems, have you addressed your doc? What did he say? did he give you something for the paranoia. I am visiting my psych tomorrow and would like some things to point out to him or even suggestions, he has always been great to me with suggestions etc.
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06/29/2012 04:22 AM  Top
bfly
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Well, I can't say I've felt the same type of paranoia- paranois comes in so many colors- I can relate to feeling paranoid for sure- it sneaks up on my typically more in the mania phase of my illness... I think - not a doc- it's one of the "psychotic" features of bipolar (like hallucinating - visual or auditory)... and if it's really bothersome and starts to affect your life- that's not a good thing- Before they found the right med coctail I would hallucinate and experience paranoia- went on an anti-psychotic and they went away quickly - was awesome not to have the "ghosts" anymore. I would talk with your doc about it- I no longer am on the anti-psychotic med- this coctail seems to be keeping that at bay. I wish you the best with however you decide to cope with it.
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06/29/2012 06:32 AM  Top
butterfly9
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I've never had those specific thoughts or paranoia. But, I have had it as well. I used to think people were watching me or sending me messages, stuff like that.

I got on an anti-psychotic. I take abilify and that stuff went away right away. I hope you feel better and are able to get some answers at your docs today.

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06/29/2012 08:40 AM  Top
lost4good
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I'm paranoid about everything and I don't know if it is real or imagined. I see the way my friends and coworkers look at me and whisper (know it is about me) and my family as well: i can see it in their eyes. I'm pretty sure most people are out to get me for something but I'm not sure what i did. when I go shopping i know i'm being followed by security or they think i'm passing fake money or stolen debit card. i don't like going out to eat or other public places because everyone is watching me and talking about me. oh, i could go on and on. i know you all think i'm more nuts than the rest now too.
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06/29/2012 04:24 PM  Top
VivaLaKelsey
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yes I definitely do every once in a while. I think my friends are mad at me, and I am sure the reasons I come up with in my head are what my friends are thinking. It makes me really upset for hours until I come out of the paranoia and realize that I'm being silly. Its a hassle though
extreme denial, not medicated and loving it

06/29/2012 04:30 PM  Top
bfly
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lets see.. this may just be the sleep deprivation talking... but holy hell... I do feel paranoid about the people around me... I start having negative thoughts that they are surly thinking about me, fearing what they are thinking and doing- it's frakin crazy- see I think I answer more appriately in state--- cause these thoughts are wild and out of control! You are not alone... but having said all of that each line I type lifts off the page things are looking all 3D and stuff... so take it with a grain of salt (no LSD I promise- Mania in the relatively friendly epidode for the hour! Yeah!
Your joy is your sorrow unmasked. And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears. And how else can it be? The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. Kahlil Gibran

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” Leo F. Buscaglia

"Always fall in with what you're asked to accept. Take what is given, and make it over your way. My aim in life has always been to hold my own with whatever's going. Not against: with."
Robert Frost

"God doesn't give us more than we can handle, I just think He overestimates my strength!" lol- me

Bipolar I, PTSD, Bulimia, Anxiety, Fibromyalgia

Lithium 1500 mg; Lamictal 400mg; Busparone 60 mg; Armour Thyroid 30; Visteril as needed

06/29/2012 04:36 PM  Top
Kittylover
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I think people are mad at me all the time. Either that or have decided I am not worth their time. I guess that sounds pretty paranoid when I write it out and think about it...
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06/29/2012 04:45 PM  Top
Boidhre
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Paranoid thoughts? All the time. About pretty much everyone. Paranoid delusions? Only once about 8 years ago when I was quite, quite ill and not getting the correct treatment.
Bipolar

Meds:

1200mg Lithium
10mg Abilify.
50mg Seroquel (for sleep)
0.5-1mg Rivotril (Klonopin) (PRN)
7.5mg Zopiclone (PRN)

06/29/2012 11:06 PM  Top
madisonmatth
Posts: 134
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I go through these fits more often than not, almost every day ... if someone looks at me in a "different way" or says hi in a tone that doesn't sound super up beat ... It sends me into a downward spiral where I assume they are made at me, they hate me, i must have done something. If I ask to do something with them and they say "no I'm busy" or "sorry have family over" I assume well why wouldn't they invited me to hang out with the family? especially if I've hangout with the family before. I always assume people or certain people are lying to me just because they dont want to be around me. and then it makes me question them, or ask them if they are mad at me, of course they always say no but its not convincing. is this even normal?

i question if I'm paranoid or just being smart and need new friends


06/30/2012 01:23 AM  Top
Incomplete
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Yes i have experienced thoughts and beliefs similar to you. Theres actually a book about it.

http://books.google.com.au/books/about/ Manic_depressive_insanity_and_paranoia.html?id=DuVMBi9ycfEC&redir_esc=y

Long before i was diagnosied bipolar, an earlier pdoc used the term paranoid thoughts and ideas of persecution for my low almost bottom end thoughts of wothlessness like...... I am less, no one, others see it, know it and are mocking me, even if they are not now they will soon. They all help me, i am a burden everyone, they want me to leave, but dont want to say it, i make them feel uneasy, i cant be helped, i am a disease and made them sick, i know it, they know it, they know i know.

Theres also the other extreme of it when have gone to high. friends and family asking (what to me are) odd questions, saying somethings not right, i am unwell or sick. Initially dont know or care why its happening, learn because there slow and stupid, cant comprehend how meaningful my ideas are. Soon realize people are being condescending have ulterior motives (silence the truth, claim discoveries as there own) why else continually try to disprove, reject, refuse, nullify what is real? Concluding the closest people in my life are conspiaring against me. Last time i was hospitalised. There i started treatment with current pdoc he explained psychotic mania commonly starts with grandiose delusions that turn into paranoia and persecutory delusions. My pdoc also believes i have had a couple of paranoid delusions, even the fear rushing through my body now, over memories of these, things that are still real ,as real as my arms and legs, i know it wasnt real so i dont understand it. this is part of this illness i doubt i will ever be able to accept.

Post edited by: Incomplete, at: 06/30/2012 03:10 AM

when wanting to write, will use many words, while rhythmic in phrasing, what appears was completely absurd
no logic, moronic, questioning rhetoric, elevated phonic almost supersonic chronic derailing in topic
no message is sent or answer recieved still something of great importance within conception believed
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