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Bipolar ForumsGeneral & SupportCan you get out of mania by talking?
05/04/2012 10:16 AM
mark42
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Is it possible to get out of your mania by talking etc? Or doesn't that make any difference?
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05/04/2012 10:22 AM  Top
Cthebird
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I talk A LOT during mania and hypomania. All it does is egg it on. If I'm elated hypo/manic, the last thing I'm thinking or telling myself is that it should stop.

If you mean can therapy help? I don't know. Recently I was on the verge of mania and my tdoc suspended me claiming there was nothing she could do when I was in that state. That it was all in my pdoc's court. I even told her I looked for a DBT coping skill to help me (as if) and she yelled "No! You wouldn't find one because none would help you in your condition.

I'm not sure if regular CBT therapy could help at all. I've been hypomanic in other therapy and it only seemed to anger and frustrate the therapist. I'd even have little fights with them. Not very productive, in my opinion. So, maybe my DBT tdoc was right. It stunned my pdoc when I relayed the story, but then he thought about it and agreed with her.

Post edited by: Cthebird, at: 05/04/2012 10:24 AM

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Psychiatric meds:

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Ativan 1 mg "as needed" (I rarely take it.)*Seroquel regular 50 mg "as needed" (Only if I'm getting elevated.)

Other meds:

Propranolol (40 mg)*Levothyroxine (150 mcg)

My mix is side effect friendly for me.

05/04/2012 08:11 PM  Top
uncertainone
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I don't think that talking can get you out of mania. God all I did was talk..when I was last really manic. The last time I was getting manic, I happened to have a dental cleaning and they found out that I had an infection in my tooth and gave me a antibiotic. It fixed my tooth and also fixed the mania (maybe it was only hypo, but I was sleeping like 4 hours a night and not being tired in the morning.) The first night I was on the antibiotic, I got so tired I had to go to bed at 9!!! (I hardy ever go to bed early.) I know that they are studying minocycline (which is an antibiotic) in the treatment of bipolar, so maybe it has something to it.

Try to chill as best you can. Good luck, Maria

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05/04/2012 08:28 PM  Top
Cthebird
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Come to think of it, once I was manic and on vacation in Maine. I had a hallucination and was doing wild things and making a food of myself. My husband threatened to take me to the hospital, which happened to be next door. That sort of made me behave a little bit more to the point where he didn't carry out his threat. I went to my pdoc when I got home and had a med increase. But that was my hubby talking. Not me.
Bipolar 1, Simple Partial Seizures, and migraines

Psychiatric meds:

Lithium ER (900 mg)*Tegretol XR (1400 mg)*Lamictal (100 mg)*Geodon (160 mg)*Navane (5 mg)*Seroquel XR (100 mg)*Klonopin (.5 mg)

Ativan 1 mg "as needed" (I rarely take it.)*Seroquel regular 50 mg "as needed" (Only if I'm getting elevated.)

Other meds:

Propranolol (40 mg)*Levothyroxine (150 mcg)

My mix is side effect friendly for me.

05/05/2012 04:44 AM  Top
mark42
Posts: 30
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Yeah that's what I meant.. I got annoyed by ppl that said "yeah talking to a psychologist will get you out of your problems".. that are just stupid short sighted assumptions.

During my mania I rather had the tendency to troll (playing games) during therapy than be serious.

Post edited by: mark42, at: 05/05/2012 04:44 AM


05/05/2012 05:05 AM  Top
LaurenCat
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With Bipolar you need to have a two pronged attack. Meds and talking. Meds are always first. If I get manic, my husband can usually get me to where I will take the right meds, but my personal opinion is that it is the meds that help. The same with depressive episodes. Too depressed where you feel like you can't cope or want to hurt yourself, head for our doctor.

Am in hospital at the moment for tteatment for depression. Had ALL my meds changed today... a bit scared about that, but we will see. Best of luck, talk to your doc!


06/21/2012 08:29 PM  Top
nurse932
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When I'm hypomanic and I start talking I can't stop and if people listen it hypes me up and then the pace of my talking increases. I have 7 sisters and 1 brother. My mother and siblings all complained they couldn't understand me because I was unable to slow down my talking.I had too much to say and not enough time.

One sister, in an effort to make me stop talking that much, threatened me as a child that every person is born with a certain amount of words to be used in their lifetime and if its used up you die. I seriously believed her and was very scared. But I still could not stop


06/21/2012 11:10 PM  Top
LaurenCat
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To be fair and without malice, your sister is an idiot. It is all part of being BP.

I get way talkative when mania hits, or when I have omething to drink. Just be yourself and dont forget to take your medsSmile


06/22/2012 08:05 AM  Top
centerseeker
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I don't think talking can stop you being manic. If it could who would be on all these meds? I do think, for some people, it can help you feel better until you get relief.

I was fairly manic just recently. I spoke to a friend (to whom I am very grateful Smile ) who made me feel better just by being understanding. Then the friend had me call my NP and my NP made me feel better by talking also.

But by feel better I mean I felt understood so a little less panicky in my mania. It was ultimately the meds that helped me come down. My NP had given me specific instructions about taking something earlier and increasing it also.

So to me, hit a mania? Call your doctor right away because talk isn't going to bring you down BUT it can help you feel calmer about not feeling calm, if that makes sense. Being understood and feeling supported can be a huge part of recovery from an episode.

That's what it is ultimately about after all, feeling recovered and comfortable again.Smile

Post edited by: centerseeker, at: 06/22/2012 08:06 AM

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