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01/29/2008 06:31
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I have an 8 year old. I took her to a pdoc for anxiety. She is in the 2nd grade now. Since she was in preschool, if she was woke up before 10 a.m. she would throw these outragous fits. The only way I can describe it is she acted possessed!Screaming, crying, kicking and swinging her arms, growling, squealing. Wow, it was awful. The Dr. prescribed Zoloft at a low dose & now she gets up perfectly. I don't regret it one bit.

I recently found out that I am Bipolar II & that changed everything with her. The Zoloft helped her get up easier & it helped her anxiety, but the moods she has in the day hasn't really changed. She has 15 out of 25 symptoms from the Bipolar Children book. And there is a long list of other things in the book that she does as well. She definitely has mania days, and then there are those days that she is so down in the dumps depressed that she has her knees on the floor bending over the couch complaining HOW BORED SHE IS, there is noooothing to do, and she cries & slides down the couch into the floor & throws a fit because she doesnt have anyone to play with. A simple no turns her into an evil child, I could go on and on!!!Last year she went to school & the teacher said she came up to her desk at least 10 times a day complaining 'her leg hurts, her head hurts, her tummy hurts, her toe hurts, her eye hurts. She came home one day and told me that she choked on a piece of candy and her teacher stuck her fingers down her throat to get the candy out. It never happend???

I have a prescription in my hand & all I need to do is get it filled. I no how I feel inside & I no what is going on with myself. I couldn't imagine how she feels & she doesn't even no what is going on with her..I try to talk myself out of it all the time. Like one of the above posters said 'she will grow out of it', 'when she gets older, she won't act like this'. I have been saying that since she was 3?I keep making excuses & 5 years later, it hasn't gotten any better?Now, I have this prescription in my hand, and i don't think its the right thing to do..I'm scared to death of hurting her. Its just no fair.

We are a stable family, we are involved, we spend time with them, we carry on conversations with them, we love them, we would do anything for them, we are here for them. I just don't know what else we can possibly do to make it better, that she doesn't need this medication. I mean, it is proven that it only progresses???

I guess there is no magical answer, its whatever the parent feels comfortable with doing??

Sorry for the ramble!

Amber

My name is Amber, Im 30 years old..Married for almost 12 years to my wonderful husband (together for 14). We have 2 children boy/girl. I have recently been diagnosed having Bipolar II.
Im glad to have found this website..I have lots of supportive people in my family. There is nothing else like having people to come to that truely understand, exactly what you are going thru or feeling!
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01/29/2008 15:49
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I can't tell you how much I appreciate everyone that has written regarding bipolar disorder with children. Thank you! It's nice to know that you are not alone. So many of the same feelings between mothers...my husband (my son's step-dad) and I have taken so many different parenting classes, thinking that it has to be "us". The way we parent, the consequences, the rewards etc. 5 years of counseling, trial and error, classes, books and more classes. My son had been diagnosed with ADHD/ADD, we have gone through all of the meds, all of which had just the opposite affect on him. More counseling, more evaluations and to be honest, when we took him to the last Psychiatrist, I expected the same routine. Meds that wouldn't work, he would become even more violent on them (as he did with the ADHD/ADD meds) and we would be back to square one. This time it's been different...the meds are actually working. He isn't all over in the classroom, he is paying attention, no violent outbursts of anger, he's not breaking his toys, cutting up things and we don't have to walk on egg shells around him. He's fun to be around. (Granted this is only a quick run down on his behaviors.)

My son has been on meds about a month now and we have seen the drastic change. My problem is that his natural dad won't give him the meds when he visits on weekends (in his opinion, any problems with our son it's naturally all my fault, but that's another story). So Monday's - Tuesday it's really hard for him to get back on track. His teacher even acknowledges the change, the difference in him. I don't hear - "Mommy, I don't know why I did that" or "I don't know why I'm so mad, I just am!" any longer.

I don't know about you folks, but I'm so tired of blaming myself or thinking I'm a "bad mom" because of all that is happening. I continue to educate myself, learning from day to day, I work with special ed kids daily in my job, I read all I can get my hands on. Even counseling for him and I to help us both deal better and have more options etc. Having some answers now has brought so much more peace of mind. I wish the answer to all of this was different other than Bipolar disorder - but at least I know which direction to look, read etc. I am so thankful for this web site and all of you that have written! Thank you!!

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01/29/2008 16:02
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Your ex needs to be court ordered to give your son his meds. This is very dangerous for his little body, even a grown body. Please talk to his doctor and your attorney.

I am so glad to hear your son has responded well to meds. I have rather strong feelings about the blanket diagnosing of our children with BPD. I think many doctors get excited about the latest thing and tend to over diagnose. It really is encouraging to learn the full stories.

May God bless you on your journey.

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01/29/2008 19:59
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I have a 10 year old who was diagnose bipolar in August.He had an ADHD/ODD diagnosis for 3 years,but none of the several different meds that he was on did any good.He was finally put on Abilify in September.Now he is getting increasingly violent over little things even though his manic episodes have stopped.At this point we are out of options and are at a loss as to what to do next.For the first time he if failing subjects in school and his teacher says he has no respect for authority.He used to be an A/B student whose teachers had nothing good to say about him.Not sure what we're going to do from here.

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01/29/2008 20:10
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I am in that position now. My son lied to me to get out of school today. It was not one of the normal kids lie to get out doing something. He made himself sound sick to get out of school. we had a very intense session with his therapist. Not sure if he will get it now. I can just hope that he will try to deal with his own stuff with her now. What he did was in my book a big no no. he is my son and I will give the leeway i do not give others. it does not excuse the fact that he knew what he was doing. He used his problem as an excuse to get out of school. He will not do that again. Sometimes you have to say stop. Either you do this or you do this. It is hard when you know that your kid is now trying to lie to get what he ultimately wants.
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01/29/2008 20:14
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I know what you mean.My son now uses his diagnosis as an excuse for his behaviour.In the middle of beating on me he tells me that it's his bipolar and he can't control it.Which i know is not true,cuz my husband and i are the only ones he hits.It's so frustrating.

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01/29/2008 20:16
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I'm not sure your son's episodes have stopped because aggression and violent outburst can be a the hypomanic symptoms of BPII. Does your son have any obvious depressed episodes? If not then you may want to question the diagnosis all together.

I also think teachers have no business diagnosing our kids even though they've been at it for years. Could it be a problem with his teacher? Have you asked him how he feels about him/her?

I base my thoughts on this. My brother was a wild as any kid could be and I know he would have diagnosed with ADHD if that had been around then. He had a really, really awful teacher in fourth grade and she just ruined him for school. He hated learning and was leary of every teacher. Long story short, he made it to high school but did not finish, and went through a vo-tech program for machinists and never finished. My brother is now a accomplished CNC machinist. He taught himself trig and calculus and he programs and repairs million dollar machines.

The point is that all kids are different, some more extremely than others. Could it be that your son would benefit from a different learning situation? And how about counseling? He should be able to put into words how he feels and recognize what he is doing and a qualified child therapist can help him do this.

K94 I hope some of his will help. I will be praying for you and your family.

Dee


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01/29/2008 20:21
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Birdie I have to say from my own experiences with BPII that I have days that I cannot full fill my commitments and it is just a weird feeling that I cannot handle the stress. Do you think it possible that your son has these feelings too?

Children find it harder to express feelings and it has taken me years to figure out all my quirks. I think anything that causes stress for a bipolar is going to trigger a reaction that cannot be controlled by them.

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01/29/2008 20:28
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I don't know what it is.He's been in counseling for 3 1/2 years.He's on his 3 rd psychiatrist in 6 months because the first 2 quit with no warning.Every time i tell him to do something that he doesn't want to do or i tell him no he lashes out with violence.It can be something as little as we're having hotdogs instead of hamburgers for supper.I don't know what to do at this point.But thank you all for replying.At least now I know that i'm not alone in this after all.

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02/09/2008 12:57
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My son would have violent outbursts with everyone but me. It didn't take hime long to figure out that i hit back. i don't mean beat the child, but if my 6 year old hit me, i hit them back. if he doesn't like what i fix for supper then he goes to bed hungry. if he breaks somthing of mine, i break somthing of his. he threw a hummel against the wall, i took a hammer to his psp. my son has learned a little self control dispite his illness.

i also had trouble with the exhusband giving my son his medication. one call to the child abuse hotline and he suddenly felt motivated to comply with the doctors orders.i recommend this only as a last resort.

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