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03/25/2012 07:35 PM
BronBlu
 
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It took 3 hospitalizations & a bunch of backup singers, but I finally stabilized on 90 mg Cymbalta daily (and all the backups). HMO says no more Cymbalta for me, $$$, and I'll do fine on Effexor. It's been a bridged switch and I am in the 3rd week - I feel like I'm back where I started. Somebody please tell me you made this transition successfully. Incidentally, the switch was 60 mg Cym./75 mg Eff. the first week, 30 mg Cym./150 mg Eff. the second week, I am in the early 3rd week, 225 mg of Effexor alone, next week 300 mg. Effexor alone, and don't bother the HMO psychiatrist for a month after that, because he won't be able to tell for 8 weeks total how this is working out. IS this going to work out? Anyone know?
225 mg Effexor, 2700 mg Neurontin, 400 mg Seroquel, 2 mg Klonopin, 60 mg Enderal
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03/25/2012 08:22 PM  Top
Joy75
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I'm sorry that your insurance isn't letting you take Cymbalta now. How discouraging for you. Can your psychiatrist call them and let them know that that is the only thing working for you? Being back where you started isn't a good sign. You may just need to give it time, but I'm not a doctor. I really hope that it works out for you. I've never been on Effexor before. I've taken Cymbalta, but it gave me chest pains, so it didn't work out for me. I hope that the Effexor starts working for you. I know they are very similar. Good luck.
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03/26/2012 12:41 AM  Top
liamacker
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As joy says they are both very similar (serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors) so hopefully it should work for you =) I was on Effexor at one point but it triggered a manic episode for me (im really sensitive to antidepressants) but that doesn't mean it won't work for you! Stay strong and give it chance to work. Good luck! =)
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03/26/2012 08:02 AM  Top
BronBlu
 
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Thanks Joy & Liam for the input - I know they're supposed to be nearly interchangeable, but like Liamacker I went utterly manic and then crashed the first week of the bridge, it's been so long since I've endured that mess, I had forgotten it - I lost most of that week, no memory. I am trying trying trying to go the full 8 weeks to "full transition" but after that first mania came a lingering sadness I cannot shake off. I hope every morning this will be the day that the Effexor grabs hold.
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03/26/2012 09:36 AM  Top
Joy75
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Going manic like that isn't good at all. They are playing with our brains, we depend on these medications to get and keep us stable. I'm sorry you had to go through those emotions. I hope that the Effexor kicks in very soon so you can get some relief. My fingers are crossed for you.
Joy, 37 years old

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Bipolar type 2 and ADD

300mg Wellbutrin
200mg Lamictal
40mg Viibryd
15mg Abilify

I AM NEITHER A PSYCHIATRIST OR PSYCHOLOGIST. I AM HERE FOR THE SAME REASONS YOU ARE. TO GIVE AND RECEIVE SUPPORT. WHAT I SAY IS PURELY MY OPINION. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR DOCTOR FOR MEDICAL ADVICE.

Bipolar disorder can be a great teacher. It’s a challenge, but it can set you up to be able to do almost anything else in your life. – Carrie Fisher

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03/26/2012 11:43 AM  Top
centerseeker
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I am really sorry they forced you to switch your meds. How insurance companies and HMO's can do this stuff is beyond me!

I hope you are feeling like yourself again.

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04/02/2012 06:40 AM  Top
BronBlu
 
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Day one of the 4th week, 300 mg of Effexor. My mind will NOT shut up, I'm just borderline manic, but my body doesn't have the energy to follow along. I'm forcing myself down every night with Seroquel. There's some belly cramping that's new, I read that's an Effexor side effect - but if I can put this rackety mind to good use this may work out. Two weeks ago I was positive it wouldn't, so I've moved forward I guess.
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04/02/2012 08:43 AM  Top
YorkieLove
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Do you think that taking a lower dose of effexor will work better for you? I don't know what the limits are for effexor, but maybe a lower dose wouldn't make you manic.
Lisa

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