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01/23/2008 14:18
kateholland78
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I think we all, even those of us who don't suffer from BP, can relate to the feeling of being depressed, or even just a little down. In those moments, everything seems dark, and getting even a little light and hope in seems futile. My question is this: where do these negative thoughts come from? I mean really, I know that mood affects the way we think, but what is it specifically about depression that causes us to plummet into negative thinking? Is it some kind of chemical that affects our thought process? Where do negative thoughts come from and why are they so prevelant during bouts of depression? If you ask some people, they will tell you that if you can control your mind and put your attention on positive things, then you can control your moods. And there are those of us that know no matter how positive you try and stay, when you're depressed, the bad thoughts are gonna getcha. So what is it about depression that causes us to think this way? I can't explain it, can you?
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01/23/2008 16:37
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I wish I knew,but being bipolar 1 its hard for me to know the balance between positive and negative....I know that not having enough serontins in the brain will cause depression...I hope that you get to feeling better..Southern10
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01/23/2008 17:12
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Hi , I don't have bipolar but I still get negative at times. I think ,for me, stress and worry bring negative thoughts and depression.

Maybe it is brain chemicals, because stress and worry do release different chemicals into the bloodstream that can affect the brain.

Sometimes if I am overworked at work, it will make me negative about my job. When I feel like someone doesn't care (whether it is a S/O, spouse, coworkers, or boss etc) it can make me feel depressed and negative.

The way I try to get myself out of it, is I think about it could be worse.

Like I had lots of stitches once to remove a bad mole and I was really negative and worryfreak about the whole thing. Then I thought, well they got it, so stop being negative, it could have been a whole lot worse.

Then if the (it could have been a whole lot worse) scenario doesn't work, I literally think about all the good relationships, relatives, friends, my kids, my cats, my dog, good times I've had in the past,etc etc, to help bring myself out of depression I have. Giving thanks really does lift my spirits.

I also will do things like call an old friend, and I also see a therapist.

Years ago, when my ex-husband kept taking me to court to try to get custody of our kids ( at times he lived in a Mc Mansion, while I was broke living in a crummy neighborhood. ) I got very very depressed and negative, because he was lying to the judge. I thought the judge was going to take my kids away because he made a lot more money than I did, had a lawyer, and was bragging about what a better life he could give them (we even had to watch a video of his house in court once (what bull) etc. etc. I had to go to the doctor and get on antidepressants for about 5 months. They helped.

Now with all the stuff going on with my current husband, I had to take antianxiety meds a few times.

I try to take care of myself and do things I like to do, like quilt, when I get a chance.

I will also look for the silliest , stupidest , comedy to watch, because I believe laughter definitely lifts my spirits

Anyway, I agree with you that it may have to do with our body's chemicals

Feel better (((HUG)))

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01/23/2008 19:40
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hi, Kate,

I have a hard time with the depression, and mixed mania. I try to do what I know to do to take care of myself, but, sometimes the negativity wins. When, I hit the horrible deep depression, I would have to hide out until it passed.

I try to use the tools, that, I learned like, going out in the sun, eating chocolate, taking a bath,calling friends, making sure, i get enough sleep,writing. I go to therapy ,too.

I hope you feel better, soon.

God bless, Gypsy

God Bless,Gypsy
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01/23/2008 22:01
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Hey Kate, wish that I could tell you where they come from, I ain't sure that anyone knows, I know first hand that in a panic attack, it literally feels like the world is fixing to blow up on you..whats that saying? waiting for the next shoe to drop?

The ladies have offered good suggestions for helping get you out of the blues, but sometimes no matter what you do, you just can't get out of them, been there and done that myself, I personally detest the AA saying of "this too shall pass" but have to admit the truth in it, it will pass, just try to hold on to the thought that there is light at the end of the tunnel and it is not a train..

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01/23/2008 22:12
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Hi Kate.

It's called depression. Healthy non bi-polar people can suffer from it, also. When one lives a stressful life, has had a traumatic event, or suffers from a chronic illness the body's ability to cope with the stress. It can cause so many bad things to happen to the body's systems. Stress can be a killer.

The brain produces all kinds of chemicals needed for proper functioning. Seretonin is one of them. It is easily depleted by stress and depression soon follows. The negative thoughts are the weights which begin to pull one into the depths of loss and hopelessness. Controlling the thoughts when we realize we are having them is helpful, but sometimes we may not recognize when we have already begun the downward spiral until we are already cemented into the depression cycle.

Getting some stress counseling and seeing a doctor to be sure there's nothing else going on with your body is the first step.

I know living with a bp is in itself a killer stress situation, but taking care of ourselves is the first step towards a better life each day.

I hope I don't sound like I'm lecturing you, I just hope you find something here to help!

Take care!

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01/24/2008 06:34
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kate i kinda think negativr thoughts are kinda instilled in us from life happenings. why depression helps bring it out is puzzeling but we have to learn what is the best way to overcome thease thoughts and realize that this time will pass too. self esteem is one of the biggest factors that plays a part in the way we can handle thease negative thoughts while we don't want to build it up so high we become an arrogant fool we have to relize that we all are somebody.there are good traits in all of us.we have to learn to be able to rely on thease when we are at a low tide.we have to be able to think of the good things we have in our lives and the things to be grateful for. that we had good times in life.

sometimes we are not able to do this .most of the time to be exact.that's when we need to reach to friends,love ones etc.we don't just ordinarly know gee i'm depressed i got to think positive.

it takes years of learning to be able to apply thease coping skills and we have to be able to know we even need to use them.thats what a website like this for for others to be able to help you know that it's time for you to work on this.

i hope this helped you feel better and i guess it sounds like lecturing but i meant it from the bottom of heart love carolyn

hi i am a 57 year old married lady. i have a 34 year old son that lives in kanas and i have 3 grandaughters.i have a bibolar disorder and adhd. i have suffered from this since. i was 12 years old.


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01/24/2008 14:10
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Thanks so much for all of your wise answers. I was actually wondering because of another BP friend's negative spiral downward yesterday, but in thinking about it, I realized that I couldn't really explain where the negative thoughts come from. I mean, some one talked of self-esteem - well, with me, it just depends on what kind of mood I'm in. Some days I think I have great self-esteem and some days I'm in such a rut that I feel terrible about myself. I just wonder about what it is that causes those drastic changes in the way we think - like I said, is it chemical? I guess I could just as easily ask why we feel elated and think that everything is wonderful when we're manic. I just wonder about the brain functioning behind it - is there a chemical reason behind thought processes? Anyway, thanks for the input!
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