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Bipolar ForumsGeneral & SupportDay programs instead of hospital stays... really
12/23/2011 10:28 AM
manicmetoo
manicmetoo
 
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My pdoc wants me in a day program, because we have been working together for a year and have only accomplished 4 weeks of stability. She thinks I need more services, (her and my tdoc meet weekly regarding there shared patience) and my tdoc feels we can see each other everyother week. I have mad coping skills for dealing with my bipolar, been in therapy for 13 years with a couple off in between. I have been on every other week with the tdoc for maybe a month and 1/2, my first time ever not going weekly. I have been with my tdoc for about a year.

I guess the reason for the post is to find out what a day program consists of, there is no info in this regard on the website where we are thinking of going. There is another an hour away that she likes and its 3 hours 5 days a week, its just to far.

Have you found the day program to be helpful? I was in the hospital for a week (depression, needed to stay safe) once I got out I made several attempts at taking my life. So I am thinking that was not very benificial to me.

I guess I know I am sick still (I refuse to go to the hospital again, just seeems silly for me) I just didnt know I was that sick, that I need a day program.

I think I liked it better when I didnt know I was sick/bipolar and it was just me, who I was and I just dealt with it. Now its like oh no, I am sick again Am going to loose anyone or anything this time.

I am sad about this day program.... in the hospital during groups I would take over and would become the mother of the group. I dealt with their problems (obsessively) instead of my own. I guess this how I deal with all friends and aquantinces, everyone elses problems become my own and I obsses on them. I throw my self to the hillside.

if you could please share your experiences, and opinions of the day program you attended that would be really wonderful for me.

thanx

deb

deb

Bipolar I (rapid cycling, mixed episode), ADHD, OCD, Anxiety disorders, Fibro, borderline and possibly psychitso effective, COPD... really?


80mg Geodon (mania & depression)
450mg Seroquel (helps my depression)
2mg klonopin(panic, anxiety, akathasia)
200mg Provigil (keeps me awake during the day)
vicadin (fibro pain killer)
Zanaflex 6mg (fibro muscle relaxer)
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12/23/2011 12:24 PM  Top
YorkieLove
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For me, it was a chance to see a pdoc every week. It also kept me.from being alone in the house and lost in my head. They review CBT topics like the different types of negative thinking. I found that to be really useful. I also enjoyed meeting the other patients. I really felt like I.fit in.
Lisa

My advice is purely personal. I am not a Doctor and there is NO substitute for getting proper medical diagnosis and advice.

Bipolar II, Depressed Severe

Lamictal 400 mg
Seroquel 150 mg
Effexor 150 mg
Inderal 10 mg
Ambien 5 mg
Lithium 1200 mg

12/23/2011 01:43 PM  Top
manicmetoo
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I already see my pdoc every other week. I do need to get out of the house and fit in some where. I am working on the judgemental thinking, of course my biggest judgments are of me and not other people.

thanx for your help.

deb

Bipolar I (rapid cycling, mixed episode), ADHD, OCD, Anxiety disorders, Fibro, borderline and possibly psychitso effective, COPD... really?


80mg Geodon (mania & depression)
450mg Seroquel (helps my depression)
2mg klonopin(panic, anxiety, akathasia)
200mg Provigil (keeps me awake during the day)
vicadin (fibro pain killer)
Zanaflex 6mg (fibro muscle relaxer)

12/23/2011 03:47 PM  Top
pirateprincess421
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I have been in and out of hospital in patient and out patient many times since 05. Mine was cbt therapy where they teach self awareness and some cognitive coping skills. You get to interact with your peers. And it really is hard work learning everything. I enjoyed it, but it didn't take away the real life problems. Some of the problems you have to walk away from or face, but it was working for awhile for me.
Princess Lainey

Lamictal 200mg
Risperdal 1.5mg
Trazadon 100mg
Klonapin 1mg
Lexapro 20mg
Wellbutrin 150mg

PS...I hate the snow

Please note that I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. My opinions are personal only. This site is not intended to be a substitution for professional care, nor is anyone here qualified to make diagnoses.

12/23/2011 04:24 PM  Top
Wyndrake
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I have been in the day treatment at the hospital 3 times, usually after a hospitalization. There were around a dozen people in the group, and there was a small staff of doctors and therapists. We'd have group therapy sessions and had breakfast and lunch served while there. Prescriptions were given, and information about my diagnoses. I liked it, I felt like I fit in, which isn't something I feel too often.
Schizoaffective Disorder Bipolar Type
Bipolar Disorder NOS

50mg Seroquel 2x a day
200mg Seroquel at bedtime
50mg Zoloft
50mg Topamax

Last hospitalization January 2006
Been complient to my treatment since.

12/24/2011 02:15 PM  Top
manicmetoo
manicmetoo
 
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Thanks for all the responses, it is helpful. I have social anxiety when my meds arent working, and am a bit terrified.

I assume all those in the group have different diagnosis, I am I right?

I just havent been taking the best care of myself lately. This just might be the best or the worst thing for me.

deb

Bipolar I (rapid cycling, mixed episode), ADHD, OCD, Anxiety disorders, Fibro, borderline and possibly psychitso effective, COPD... really?


80mg Geodon (mania & depression)
450mg Seroquel (helps my depression)
2mg klonopin(panic, anxiety, akathasia)
200mg Provigil (keeps me awake during the day)
vicadin (fibro pain killer)
Zanaflex 6mg (fibro muscle relaxer)

12/24/2011 07:56 PM  Top
hoppipolla
hoppipolla
 
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Manic, it's just structure and treatment. Think of activities/groups in a hospital without the overnight stay. It gives you time to be around others with similar disorders. It can give you empathy. I hope it can be a good experience to you if you're open to it. Take the time to focus on yourself as opposed to others in the group. It'll help immensely. It'll suck, but it'll help.
"I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." - Marilyn Monroe

Bipolar II

Viibryd, 40mg | Abilify, 20mg

I am not a psychiatrist, nor a psychologist. My offerings to the group are from personal experience and nothing more.

12/25/2011 08:51 AM  Top
manicmetoo
manicmetoo
 
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thank you hoppipolla, that is great advice. I will struggle to focus on myself. I told my pdoc about how I will mother the group, she said thats great they need you. I love her so but she sure does confuse me at times.
deb

Bipolar I (rapid cycling, mixed episode), ADHD, OCD, Anxiety disorders, Fibro, borderline and possibly psychitso effective, COPD... really?


80mg Geodon (mania & depression)
450mg Seroquel (helps my depression)
2mg klonopin(panic, anxiety, akathasia)
200mg Provigil (keeps me awake during the day)
vicadin (fibro pain killer)
Zanaflex 6mg (fibro muscle relaxer)

12/26/2011 12:25 PM  Top
manicmetoo
manicmetoo
 
Posts: 1313
Senior Member

anyone else have anything to say about the Day Programs?
deb

Bipolar I (rapid cycling, mixed episode), ADHD, OCD, Anxiety disorders, Fibro, borderline and possibly psychitso effective, COPD... really?


80mg Geodon (mania & depression)
450mg Seroquel (helps my depression)
2mg klonopin(panic, anxiety, akathasia)
200mg Provigil (keeps me awake during the day)
vicadin (fibro pain killer)
Zanaflex 6mg (fibro muscle relaxer)

12/26/2011 01:22 PM  Top
Cthebird
Cthebird
 
Posts: 2609
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I attended 2 types of day programs. One was CBT therapy with men and women. The other was DBT therapy with just women. I attended full day programs (I think from 9is to 3:30 pm) and later intensive outpatient half day programs (9ish to 1:30 pm).

At the coedSmile CBT day program there were at least 2 hours of process groups. The rest were coping skills programs and other programs (art therapy, dealing with anxiety, anger management, meditation, dealing with loss, nutrition, medication education, etc.). Coping skills class subjects changed daily.

At the DBT women's only program at least 2 hours were dedicated to learning DBT skills and going over the skills you used the day before. The rest were coping skills and other classes similar to the one's at the coed program. Lunch was at the cafeteria at the hospital for this program. The coed program was usually just a lousy sandwich. This might sound funny, but when you take Depakote food is very important. At least to me.

I started both programs 5 days per week, but then it went down to 3 days per week, and then 4 hours per day instead of 6, etc. I saw the pdoc twice per week in every day program. Once per week in the 3 days per week program. In addition to the process groups with the therapist, they also had me see a one-on-one therapist once per week when I was very bad off.

I was lucky that both day programs were within walking distance of my house. One of the 2 hospitals I went to was also within walking distance. When I was a little better I would walk there and home. When I was in the hospital I would fantasize about escaping during the smoker,s break (I don't smoke) and go home to be with my husband. They would have found out though because they do a head check.

Anyway, your experience might be different than both of mine. I guess it varies a bit from place to place. I do hope that if you decide to attend a day program that it really helps you (med changes/adjustments and therapy). Good luck!

Bipolar 1, Simple Partial Seizures, and migraines

Psychiatric meds:

Lithium ER (900 mg)*Tegretol XR (1400 mg)*Lamictal (100 mg)*Geodon (160 mg)*Navane (5 mg)*Seroquel XR (100 mg)*Klonopin (.5 mg)

Ativan 1 mg "as needed" (I rarely take it.)*Seroquel regular 50 mg "as needed" (Only if I'm getting elevated.)

Other meds:

Propranolol (40 mg)*Levothyroxine (150 mcg)

My mix is side effect friendly for me.
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