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08/16/2011 01:16 PM
BPparent
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Hopefully some one can help me understand more about bipolar disorder and help my wife cope. A little background history. We have a 18 year old daughter that was diagnosed with bipolar after several years of trouble. Started when she was around 11-12 years of age. She has seen several psychiatrist and psychologists over the years with dx of ADD to just being a rebellious child. Problems with drug abuse and alcohol abuse. She is not compliant with the meds because she says the make her so sleepy she can not function during the day.

Im a registered nurse for 12 years and have treated patients with bipolar when they come in with severe depression and/or mania episodes and a few suicide attempts. I understand what bipolar is and some current treatments and meds used, but actually dealing with a family member you love and care for is very very tough for me and my wife to cope.

Im not perfect by no means, and not even claiming to be. My wonderful wife is so supportive and cares and treats our daughter great in my opinion. She is supportive when needed and stern when needed.

My wife and I number 1 problem is the stealing. My wife really thinks the stealing is something she does out of mania or depression. I just cant come to grips with that. I believe stealing is a conscious act and has nothing to do with BP.

I can accept the fact and understand when she was younger and stole for drug money but now i dont believe she is taking illegal drug but she continues to steal. My wife is worried about her starting work because she may steal and go to jail.

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08/16/2011 01:40 PM  Top
Catbaloo
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I'm sorry to hear about your problems with your daughter. I don't know if the stealing has anything to do with her bipolar disorder or not, but I do know that she needs to be on meds. If hers make her too sleepy then she needs to find ones that don't. I take abilify, for example, and I have no issues with sedation.

A pdoc can prescribe different medications and help her with her stealing problem as well. Your wife is right: if she steals at work, she will go to jail. Therapy can help alter her behavior and help her understand what motivates her to steal.

Best wishes to you and your family.

My opinions are just opinions, and should be taken as such. I am not an expert on medicines or BP disorder.

08/16/2011 01:40 PM  Top
Cthebird
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I think that if you are not prone to theft when stable you probably won't steal when depressed or manic unless you need money for drugs. I have never read in any book that stealing was a symptom of either pole. My guess is that you are right that it is a conscious act, or that she is still secretly on drugs and stealing out of desperation. I have a cousin who stole things when she was a little kid. When she grew up she developed a heroin addiction and stole jewelry from her own step mother. She's been in jail twice for it. I often wonder if it was her PTSD that caused her drug habit, but when she was a little kid I don't think she had PTSD yet.
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Psychiatric meds:

Lithium ER (900 mg)*Tegretol XR (1400 mg)*Lamictal (100 mg)*Geodon (160 mg)*Navane (5 mg)*Seroquel XR (100 mg)*Klonopin (.5 mg)

Ativan 1 mg "as needed" (I rarely take it.)*Seroquel regular 50 mg "as needed" (Only if I'm getting elevated.)

Other meds:

Propranolol (40 mg)*Levothyroxine (150 mcg)

My mix is side effect friendly for me.

08/16/2011 03:26 PM  Top
Kittylover
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Just a thought but I have some impulse control problems especially when I am hypomanic. It could be that...I am working with both my pdoc and therapist to help with the impulse control problems. Best of luck
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03/07/2013 09:09 PM  Top
shug
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Hi BP Parent I have a daughter who is 24 she hasn't Been Dx with bipolar disorder but she has 95% of the symptoms and they started when she was about 14. Thing have only gotten worse at first we thought ok she is just a depressed personality, but then as she got older she started with lying about stupid things and then staying out later and not answering her phone acting very reckless. And then she started stealing, lying, drugs, alcohol, when it comes to getting help she procrastinates and it's very frustrating to me because she's an adult so I can even make appointments for her. She has taken and pond very expensive thing of mine and then feels so guilty when I notice these thing gone that she confesses and says she doesn't understand why she does these things. She says she get impulses that she can't control. We have given our children a very good privileged life. I feel so helpless with getting her the help that she needs. I can't rap my head around it.
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