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04/23/2008 18:43
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When you live with or have gotten to know someone so well, they can't hide it with a mask very well.

My ex spent a good part of the day here today. He had brought our daughter home from her visit with him.

He could barely sit still for 5 minutes and he was into everything. Not that I'm complaining about having my computer fixed, or stuff like that... but he was everywhere. In the attic, the garage, the back yard, even went and inspected my closet (he said he just wanted to see how I had rearranged everything now that his things were out) Just has a hard time sitting and relaxing.

Very very hyper. When we were alone for a minute I asked him if he was really ok. He hesitated and I think it is because he doesn't even know what is going on with himself. He said he misses me but he is ok.

It is like he tries to keep his life FILLED with busy work because he doesn't want to feel his own emotions. It seems like there are a thousand thoughts flying around his head all at once, and it definitely creates a kind of energy in the air (not necessarily good thing) Sometimes I wonder if that is why he has had such enormous compulsive collecting problems. If he has his mind focused on the thousands of collectibles and things and comics and cards, etc, he keeps track of, his mind is occupied- self medicating with ocd and drinking beer to keep it all together??? He is driven to excesses with everything he does, like Gypsie described above, going on a wing ding.

We hugged and I told him I hope he is ok and I missed him to and I still love him and want him to be happy.

When he left a calmness and peacefullness came over the house. It was almost tangible.

That is what his mask can't hide.

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04/26/2008 20:26
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I have been able to hide my lows from everyone around me for years, and when hypo-manic everyone just thought I was on top of my game. You would be surprised at how easy it is to coast by while shouldering the effects from the highs and the depths of the lows.
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04/26/2008 21:02
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Scotty, I should have several "Oscars" setting on my mantle.....lol I have been bipolar for all my 58 years and the acting part is so routine that my family knows I will not fall out of character when we go out together. lol I guess it comes with old age....lol







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04/26/2008 21:33
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by all the other responses, i guess you have your answer but I believe ..yes some bipolar people can hide it to a point. people pick up on the signs that something is wrong and when they ask us...well our responses are all the same...."no i'm fine"....i learned in therapy....f.i.n.e. stands for.... "freaked out, insecure, neurotic, everyday....lol the problem is that if the people do not know how to get us to talk that will be the answer everytime but so yes i believe we can hide it to a point. I was even able to hide the self mutalation like cutting and hitting myself.
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04/26/2008 21:54
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04/28/2008 00:02
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Post edited by: honestguy, at: 04/28/2008 13:05
Why Lie, When you Can Just Be Honest
lying takes 100 heart beats
telling the truth takes 2
if you lie now they will find out later and things will be worse then ever so just tell the truth now and deal with it

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04/28/2008 20:35
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Scott-

In my experience, every bipolar is different, even though we all share the same traits.

I've been bipolar all of my life, and yet managed to operate my own businesses very successfully. But during all those years, I was going through mild manic episodes most of the time. Of course at that period, I hadn't heard about manic/depression. I just accepted that I was crazy, because I couldn't come up with any other reasons for my behavior.

For instance there was a night when I thought that I could change traffic lights at will, because every time I approached a red light, it magically turned green. I suspect that the people closest to me, thought that I was very eccentric, if not a little crazy, but I was always accepted by my peers and respected by my employees, if they wanted to keep their jobs. Now about your girlfriend.

Is she aware that she's bipolar, and if so, does she take any medications? And how severe was her episode? It wasn't until I was 64, that I had a manic episode so severe, that I had to be put into the local psych clinic. That was when I was first diagnosed, so I suppose you could say that I had been able to hide it for all those years.

As we know, there is no cure for bipolar disorder, although it can be more easily managed than any other mental disorder, given the correct medication. What works for one, doesn't always work for the other.

Be supportive, and keep your sense of humor. Life is basically a learning experience, and everything happens for a reason, whether or not we ever know the reason. Good luck!

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05/04/2008 03:47
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Scotty, in my experience, I have found that I never actually HID my mania from people; those who don't understand the disorder just always ASSUMED that I was the "life of the party". I can't tell you how many times people have told me "Wow - you are so much fun.... you have so much energy...I want some of whatever YOU'RE on!!! I wish I had as much energy as you"...etc. etc. etc. And if I had a particularly irritable or bitchy moment wher I got aggressive or in-your-face; people just assumed I was ballsy or gutsy. It's only the people who I'm really close to who knew what was actually happening, and at this point, they can usually tell when I'm spiraling upward before I can. I believe that we all establish our own pattern when it comes to cycling, and for my loved ones, it has become obvious. So to answer your question: I would say that it's easy to hide mania, but only from those to don't know how to spot it. Good luck with your girlfriend; I can tell that you're in her corner & I wish you both the best!!!!
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05/04/2008 04:32
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rcjneon-i can really relate to what you're saying. i, too, went around for my life, getting through college and law school and having jobs and kids with a mask on all the time. i, too, just thought "well, i'm crazy". i imagined that other people felt the same as me, but that they just knew how to handle it and i was somehow left out of that training session...lol...a bad manic episode landed me in the hospital, too. then i was diagnosed. but before the crash, i was even hiding it during the worst manic episode i have ever had.

i guess we all have our coping skills we develop prior to diagnosis and treatment.

so scotty-i'd have to say that depending on who you are, i think it's possible to hide manic episodes until psychotic features start and the people around you can't write you off as eccentric or "high energy".

Well behaved women rarely make history.

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"if you want others to be happy, practice compassion. if you want to be happy, practice compassion" the Dahli Laama
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05/04/2008 22:15
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Hi all.

My soon-to-be ex was "the life of the party". He was fun, funny, full of energy. He was good looking and just the guy everybody liked to be around. Right before he hit forty everything just went crazy. He has recently admitted to having several addictions that I never even knew about. He wore his masks so well that I, his spouse, the mother of his children, his best friend, the "one who knew him better than anybody" didn't have a clue in the world who he really was. When the masks fell off and broke, I figured out that the man he is today is nothing at all like the man I fell in love with 21 years ago. He is nothing like the man I lived with or created a family with. Now, when he tries to wear the mask he wore for me all those years, it is all cracked and he can only keep in on for a short time before it falls apart. Does anyone know what I mean by that? It's like he gets tired of trying to hold all the pieces in place and just kind of gives up. Maybe I am just saying that because this was our third attempt at reconciliation and it ended the same way; he returned to his girlfriend, who is a narcissist. He comes home about once a month and wants to work things out.

This time he told the kids he was coming home to stay, so the kids are angry and sad now that he is gone. I am sad because I broke it off this time. I caught him lying about communicating with the girlfriend that he supposedly dumped and told him I wouldn't put up with anymore lies. I know I'm done now and so the hurt is different than before - more final. I wish I could have helped him, but I think he might be lost.

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