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07/05/2008 22:22
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Hello everyone, I am looking for some advice regarding my father. He's 46 with BP and will have no part of even talking about it. I am 24, graduated nursing school in May and I have spent many hours on-line researching this topic over the last month and a half. I always knew my dad had alot of problems with his temper, drinking, especially the way he treated my mom, 2 little brothers and little sis. Suprisingly my own mom is a nurse in a neotatal ICU, and has never insisted on him going to counciling and spent my life until I turned 18 and moved out, she has spent her life in a way that puzzles me. I could go on forever but won't. He did see a councilor twice about 10 years ago, dx him with bipolar. This is what my g-ma told me, it was never talked about though. He never thought about it since.

Keeping it short, me boyfrien of 9 years was dx with BP rapid cycling also has a drinking problem. I very much want to help him, mainly because of how my little bro, 18/diabetic since 2 and little sis are being treated. My mom allows it. He has a severe anger problem, not physical but psychological. He's in a major bad mood all the time over the past several years, works alot.

I cannot stop worrying. I have to do something. However, I have to be very cautious about what I say. I have only gotten in about 25 minutes over several times, to talk with him about it. My mom is no help and she gets really nervous when I bring it up in front of him. I know it is hard dealing with the dx of BP. It's very hard to grasp the seriousness and in its fullness.

I'm really interested in advice and insight from BP'ers. How can I get him to treat himself? What help can I give? How far is too far? How does BP affect thinkiing towards family/love/future/life?

Our family has never been loving and we all have bad memories and bad memories but I want us to have it before we die, it's a terrible thing to waste. Thank-you all for taking time.

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07/05/2008 22:39
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Welcome to the group. It would be a lie if I told you that anything you do is going to make someone else change. Unless your Dad or your boyfriend wants to stop drinking and accept the diagnosis of bipolar and get treatment there is not much hope for them. For you however, there is hope. You can get some help in dealing with these issues for yourself. These problems are theirs not yours. Unfortunately, they do impact your life. Speak up if you think it will do some good. But, be ready for resistence from your boyfriend and your family concerning your Dad's problems. They sound like they are in denial of there being a problem

Good luck on your nursing career...and you take care of yourself.

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07/05/2008 23:35
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07/06/2008 05:02
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Hi, bleedingluv, it's tough for you to be in the spot of wanting to help but as you have seen in your life, the person who needs help has to want too and those around them have to encourage them to get this help, your dad has been so long in not getting that encouragement out of your mom that the odds are he will never get the help that he needs, your boyfriend, while he might have a chance, probably see's nothing wrong, about the only thing you can hope for is taking care of yourself, while the boyfriend might not be beating you at this time, the fact that he is physiologically abusing you can cause worse scars, you have to decide if you want to really spend your life like this, like your mom has all these years.
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07/06/2008 19:09
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I'm 24. I am really so interested in this and actually mental illness altogether. I really want to make a difference. I want to because of the way society views it. People who know nothing about it, make incorrect and degrading judgements, which in turn has made it so hard for the mentally ill.

When I mentioned my bf, I meant that because of what we've been going through since his dx is the reason I am so passionate about helping my father. But my father is always in a bad mood, not the bf. Just wanted to clear that up. My bf is still a very caring and considerate individual, he is in fact a better father to our son than my father has ever been.

I understand how frustrating and confusing it must be to learn of dx of BP, but it also seems that it would be amazing at the same time that there is actually a reason for the behavior and thinking. There is help but still my dad won't listen. Ugh. Thank you all for helping!

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07/06/2008 19:37
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Did you say that you had just finished nursing school?? When I was in training I had to do lengthy, clinical, hands-on training. I learned all about BPD and other mental illnesses. Is this not required to become a nurse anymore?
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07/06/2008 20:03
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I've had a similar history with my parents. My dad finally moved out suddenly three years ago. I wish there was something I could do but I know that there is no fixing or helping him but learning from life with him. I know it's hard to hear but knowing he yelled at me and refused to talk to me for getting treatment for myself I know that he would never accept his own problems.
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07/06/2008 21:50
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EXACTLY WHAT R U SAYING MORNING GLORY??? R U REALLY ASKING ME WHY NURSING SCHOOL TAUGHT ME NOTHING OF BPD??? I STATED I DO KNOW ABOUT IT!! I ALSO STATED ME PASSION TO HELP, WHAT IS UP WITH YOUR POST??
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07/06/2008 21:54
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Don't get testy please bleeding...I meant no harm. I only want to know why you don't use your medical knowledge, now, when you need it most? However, if you feel better taking your anger out on me, by all means, have at it.
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07/06/2008 22:39
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I see from SOME of the posts show that I am not alone and that some people have been in similar situations. Thank you to all who love a BP'er and show your understanding of how difficult dealing with them at times can be.

“Manic-depression distorts moods and thoughts, incites dreadful behaviors, destroys the basis of rational thought, and too often erodes the desire and will to live. It is an illness that is biological in its origins, yet one that feels psychological in the experience of it; an illness that is unique in conferring advantage and pleasure, yet one that brings in its wake almost unendurable suffering.”

*This is a quote from a BP'er/psychiatrist/works with The National Institute of Mental Health, found on their website.

Although laughing and joking one moment, these same patients can quickly become irritated, angered, enraged, destructive, or conversely tearful and depressed with slight provocation. That is, the patient may present with manic-depressive symptoms, with mania predominating. Hence, manic-depression (bipolar affective disturbances) may be due to waxing and waning abnormalities involving the right and left frontal lobes.

*http://brainmind.com/RightFrontalLobe.html

From: Neuropsychiatry, Neuropsychology, Clinical Neuroscience

by Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D.

(Academic Press, New York, 2000)

Symptoms associated with frontal lobe injury include, but are not limited to, impulsivity, reduced thought processing and reasoning, inability to sequence, poor insight into the deficits that exist, poor ability to plan, short-term memory impairment, and personality changes. There also disturbances with neurotransmitters, ganglion, levels of protein and several other factors. Unfortunately it is hard to easily be able to measure all these things acurately in individuals and this is why there is a stigma, because it is hard to prove some certain things.

**My words might make some upset and that's ok,

however I am just passionate. Every BP'er is unique

with varying levels in intensity.

The stigma has begun to cause negativity from the mentally ill and people without mental illness.

It is very hard to express concern and compassion and in return, be questioned why I don't know anything.

But hopefully this shows an example of the hurt BP'ers can cause when they hear something they didn't want to hear. Still we must remember it is the illness.

There are many crisis hotline and support groups, like this one, where families burdened with BPD can go for caring and support. Sometimes the hurt is severe and unwarranted, even if you could be the sweetest, most good-hearted, and petite person. We only get tougher and more focused on the love we have for them, even at times when they have no one else who cares half as much.

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