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10/26/2007 21:24
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Is it THAT hard to live with us whom are bipolar? I gotta ask. I read the forums here telling about other people's relationships and knowing that my relationship with my husband isn't going well, practically near divorce, and I want to know.
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10/27/2007 03:44
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Dear Punky,

For me the most difficult part is seeing the person I love so very much going through so much pain and confusion and being completely unable to help him. There are points when I begin to feel hopeless and depressed and know that I have to stay well or there will be no one to care for our children. I won't ever divorce him, because I see it as an illness, and I know how much he needs me. But sometimes I wonder if it's too much for our children to live with. All of these thoughts do add a lot of stress to a relationship. Try to hang in there, talk to each other about your feelings, and see things from each other's perspective.

Most people don't know that there are angels whose only job is to make sure you don't get too comfortable & fall asleep & miss your life - Brian Andreas
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10/27/2007 09:30
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Hi Punky - I'm not an expert on bipolar, but I do have a lifetime of experience living with a person who suffered with this disease and I have come to know a great deal more about it recently which has helped me a lot and to assist me in my own recovery. My dad had bipolar I with psychosis. He was also an alcoholic. I will tell you what I know about his disease and hope it helps you. He would act out, really treat his family horribly, say cruel things, etc. you get the idea. Strangly enough, the next morning while we as a family were traumatized because of what we had been through the night before - he would be calmly, even happily at times it seemed,sipping his coffee, reading the morning paper and just generally acting as if nothing at all had happened. To us it just seemed that he could really care less how he treated us.From what I understand about psychosis this is a part of it. They can't remember what happened during their episode. This was a big part of his pain with his own disease, not understanding that we weren't just being cruel to him, we were suffering. Anyway, hope this helps. Good Luck to you and I salute you for looking for answers - it shows a lot of strength on your part!



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10/27/2007 13:43
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I try to see it from his perspective. I know it's a big change on his part seeing me with this disorder and him feeling like he can't help but it makes me even more depressed when he says I'm worthless and lazy. We argue every other day and this is what it's like. I try and tell him how I'm feeling and what I think is wrong and he sees it as me doing it on purpose. I wish he knew how it feels to live with this disorder. I don't wish for anyone to be "sick" but if they only really knew what it's like, maybe....just maybe...

Like my doctor. She seems to be loooking at it from my husbands point of view. She says if I don't make changes then my husband will get the children if we divorce.

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10/27/2007 13:55
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Hi jlh1956, thanks for your comment. I'm sorry about your experiences with this disorder. Thankfully during my episodes I remember what happens....well, it's a good thing and not a good thing 'cause i then feel very guilty about my behaviour and it eats at me. Maybe the alcohol he drank had something to do with him not remembering.

But I think every case is different and shouldn't be grouped together as saying all bipolar people are bad in relationships. I think it's important we try not to do this 'cause the people that have the disorder start feeling like there's no hope.

Thank you for the salute I try to be strong even when it gets rough but my children have alot to do with it. I love them so much.

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10/27/2007 14:01
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Hi Punky- I think the effect on marriages depends on so many different variables that each situation is completely different. Maybe spouses cope better if the bipolar one acknowledges their situation. I'm sure I would have a LOT better time coping and be more understanding if my husband admitted there was a problem and sought help for himself by trying meds & therapy. My husband thinks all his strange behavior over the years are (just things that happened, no big deal) examples : forgery, shoplifting, pathological lying, outrageous berzerk temper tantrums, binge drinking, going into bigtime debt with crazy needless collecting and shopping sprees, verbally abusive to our kids and me, then laughing and acting

silly, socially unacceptable behavior : road rage, etc.etc,. on a CONTINUING basis. Refusing to accept the opinions of family and Dr.

I told him point blank every huge crisis our marriage has endured has been because of some bizarre something he has done. He just does not see the connection ( the coomon thread of bipolar personality) He treats EACH separate incident apart from each other rather than it is a continuing problem. Well that is why our marriage is on the rocks. Laur


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10/27/2007 14:17
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Thank you for sharing Laur. Sounds like it's hard to live with him. Has he always been this way? When was he diagnosed? Has he ever been consistent with his meds and if so what's that like?

The forgery, shoplifting, and verbal abuse nobody should live with and if children are involved it makes for a sensitive situation. I'd be careful.

But not ALL bipolar people are prone to such acts. He could not be bipolar and still do those things.



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10/27/2007 14:50
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Hi Punky- Well he has never tried meds and that is one of the problems. He was dignosed 3 years ago because I told him go to the dr or move out. I think he was self assured that the Dr. would say nothing was wrong. However, when the Dr. listened to quite a few stories and incidents (which my husband did not deny) He came to the conclusion that he is bipolar. At that point he refused to ever go back... Then a few months later I convinced him to try joint counselling with me. After the 6th or 7th session with a new Dr. and the therapist got right with him about his behavior and mood swings he refused to go back there as well.

He hasn't always been this bad. I can see he is getting worse and it breaks my heart. His drinking is way worse as the years go by. He used to grab a six pack when he was mowing the lawn, then it was a 12 pack for the weekend, now it is a 30 pack for the weekend and another one for the rest of the week after work. I agree with something you said earlier blog that the dringking is making things worse. He has blackouts or something. He will swear he said something that he didn't or that he did not say something that he actually did.

It is in his family too. He is one of 6 kids and 4 of his siblings are on meds for either depression/ addictions/ or bipolar.

He very clearly sees what is going on with his relatives but refuses to admit he has the same problems.

Laur


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10/27/2007 15:22
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That's right Laur - You nailed it, that's exactly how it is. Without a dx. and treatment - denial and no accountability is the name of the game. Unfortunately both the BP and the alcohol dependency get worse as time goes by. That's why it is crucial that they get into treatment ASAP, but some just won't accept it. What do you do?
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10/27/2007 16:22
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Hi jlh1956- Well as this was the worse summer for us in a long time

I am back in therapy....Have a tentative Dr. appt. for my husband with Another Dr....getting therapy for our daughter...etc. etc. etc.


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