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Why do bipolars run from ones they love?



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05/14/2008 22:18
kimminentdanger
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Tammy - I read the cryptic meessage, re-read it and then read it again; and I am confident when I tell you that I feel like it makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. At all. Not even a little bit. (And I am pretty good at deciphering rants, seeing as how I've spouted so many of them myself!) I think he probably started writing the e-mail with intentions of making a point, but he never really quite got there... I agree with Warhorse; he sounds pretty manic. I think you did the right thing by deciding not to waste your time & energy figuring out what he was trying to say, because I'm not sure HE knows what he was trying to say. Hang in there... better days will surely come.
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05/15/2008 18:32
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Hi Buhlir- You sound like you are a lot more sure of yourself these days too. I know you gave it your all to make your marriage work. There is only so much you can humanly accomplish.

You are right to be concerned for the sake of your children. They need stability in their lives.

Right now, my ex is kind of 'expecting' our daughter to spend every single weekend with him. He even got a puppy (part his own lonliness, part enticement to get her over there...I am so cynical!)

He even called to get her on Mother'sDay weekend. I was like, uh it's MOTHER'S DAY and we have plans. She keeps asking me if I am going to tell him every other weekend so she can play with her friends on the weekends as well (he moved to another town about 20 minutes away) I told her I will discuss it with him , so that takes the pressure off her for not having to go every weekend. When it's summer vaca he can see her additional days during the week as well.

I have no problem with all this as long as he is not getting drunk or mean. So far, she says he only has a couple beers when she is over ( which probably means more than that because he hides it well)

I just take one day at a time.

It is like emerging from a fog, or out of a shell or something. Those OMG what has he pulled now feelings are a thing of the past and it is such a relief.

But, because there are children involved, I don't think it will be easy to not think about ex or stbx at all.

I have a couple well meaning friends who mention single guys they think I'd like to meet. I can't even process that at this time! haha I am relishing my freedom and peace & quiet... for now.

Take care

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05/15/2008 21:40
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Hi Tammi,

Were you or your husband EVER in the Real Estate Business?? Is that the business he was in that "failed" somehow? Otherwise, this letter to you is just incoherent ramblings that make no sense.

On a brighter note, Real Estate can be a wonderful business if you can afford to support yourself for several months until your first deal closes. I know someone who was a school teacher who did RE during her summers off just to make some extra money. She did so well that she gave up teaching and sold RE full time. Made six figures. It's easy to do if you are in a up-and-coming RE market.

BTW, no surprise that the bimbo is now pregnant -- that's how SHE makes a living!

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05/15/2008 23:18
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Hi Everyone

Just needed to vent. Haven't been on this site for awhile. I just finished my chemotherapy last month (very happy its over) and now my body is just starting to recover from all the chaos. However I am super stressed all the time because of my husbands ups and downs. My husband and I don't live together anymore since about 2 months now. I am moving to another city in 15 days for a job. In these 2 months, its been a lot more peaceful yet the stress never went away.

My husband takes his meds but I don't think they are the right kind/dosage. He is a lot more stable in terms of being verbally/physically abusive but I see him biting the crap out of his nails and he always lets his anxiety get to him.

He is always pushing me away and frankly I think he is rapid cycling. He goes from super happy. all loving to running away from me. And in his head I guess he knows he can't run too far as we are married and that fact eats him away. His guilt is killing him right now and there is nothing I can do to help him. We try to go on dinner dates or see each other every so often but he is depressed. He has always pushed me away. He lives in the past and doesn't see how his present is just passing him by. I have to say that living with cancer was a lot easier then living with my husbands ups and downs..sigh..

Thank you for listening.


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05/16/2008 16:37
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You could have just described my husband. When he was most recently manic he pierced his ear, started riding in motorcycle gangs and thought he really needed to purchase his own bike NOW. He has calmed down, by the earring is there as a lovely reminder!
Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong, because sometime in your life you will have been all of these.
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05/17/2008 17:06
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Hi everyone. Glad to hear things are better for you, Sky. You are right - I do feel better since going to court for the temporary order giving me temp sole custody, sole access to the house, support, and a set visitation schedule. He can't jerk me around as much anymore - now it is just the aggravation of getting him to finish his walk-through of the attic so he can make a list of what he wants to take from the house, agreeing on it and getting him to get his crapola out of the house once and for all. He is still hanging on - offering to help me with this and that. He is pretty blown away that I have been doing small repairs (much needed ones) myself and hiring someone to do the things I can't like get the pool running. It's him delaying now because he can't let go. It's sad, but it's over now for me. And, yes, he told me at court that he wanted to take the kids the following Sunday which was Mother's Day - but only because he didn't know it was Mother's Day, which would be typical for him. He did call me that day to wish me a Happy Mother's Day, but I didn't take his call. He asked my 6 year old to tell me while he was on the phone. I said "tell your dad thanks." That is all. He sent me a handful of nasty emails last week during a bout of mania. He seems to get so, so, so angry and just lashes out when he is manic. He also talks so darn fast that you have to ask him to repeat what he says 2 or 3 times, which only makes him angrier.

Jkanzalo: the ear piercing thing must be common because now my STBX also has had his ear pierced - with a hoop - like a pirate. Bizarre! He also has a goatee and moustache with tuffs of gray in it. If he is trying to look younger this look is not cutting it. He also wears his leather jacket everywhere and was talking about getting a tattoo and motorcycle. His girlfriend is 11 years older than he is so maybe he is trying to look older to fit in more with her. He is forty but the gray in the beard makes him look 10 years older.

Things are getting lots better with him not coming around all of the time and me not communicating with him except about the kids. My kids keep telling me that I need to date - the 6 year old told me to "get him a new dad" and the 14 year old wants me to find someone that will treat me nice because I deserve it after what I have put up with. Personally, I am in no rush to date. Who needs the drama right now? I get enough of it with my 14 year old son! Take care guys. Talk to you all soon!

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05/18/2008 18:51
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Hi Ashcutee- Glad to hear the chemo is finally over and from your posts I can tell you are such a brave and strong person!!!

I hope everything works out for you with your new job.

Keep your husband's depression from getting to you. I know it is very hard to do, and it is almost like you are taking it on with them (riding the roller coaster with him whether you want to or not) If he keeps pushing you away, try very hard to not take it personally. When my ex did that I always thought there was something wrong with me, and it took a long time before I recognized that it was part of his cycle of bipolar.

Hopefully, you will be very busy at the new job and make some new friends too.



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05/18/2008 19:24
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Hey Sky!

Thank You for your kind words. Yes it is very hard to remember that "its not me"- it never was me. I was and am a supportive spouse/friend and I think me trying very hard has actually become the problem. I need to step back and take a look at myself.

He has always pushed me away. But this time, he physically took my arm and with a bit of force pushed me towards the door and said i needed to leave. I think that was a moment where I felt like I needed some respect from this person and that this pushing is past its limit.

I'm happy to be moving. It makes me feel happy and confident and infact, today I met with my extended family and everyone told me I looked healthy, happy and a lot better since I moved out of his house.


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05/18/2008 19:53
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NewDayDawning: I want you to know that I had the whole RV dream too. Hard to let go off. It is actually hard to picture myself with anyone else but him.

I know things will get better and I too am remembering lots of dysfunction in our relationship that I guess I never thought about that much myself. Now, on my own, with my boys, things are just so much calmer. I feel like I am finally taking charge of my life for the first time in 21 years. It's scary but feels good too. I literally start to feel tense on Friday morning before work. I don't start to relax until Sunday night. He travels for work - out of state usually - five days a week. I feel so free when he is gone and so tense when he is back.

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05/18/2008 20:48
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I am still stuck in the dream of growing old. It is so hard to let go, but I also know I deserve more respect than what I am getting. It is less stressful in our home also since he moved out. When I pick up the phone or answer the door it's like I never know which person I am going to find, the one I fell in love with or the cruel, cold-hearted one. It seems he is keeping secrets again. His sister emailed me and told me to ask where he was all day. When I did, he said he was working on an engine with a friend. I'm sure that's not what is about to unfold...........Just wish I could have my husband and family back together.
Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong, because sometime in your life you will have been all of these.
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