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Why do bipolars run from ones they love?



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11/05/2007 12:16
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My wife of 4 months was diagnosed with bipolar last year. Over the past few weeks she has stopped taking her meds and stopped going to therapy. We took a belated honeymoon trip a few weeks ago (when she stopped her meds) and on that trip she threatened divorce and pushed and pushed me away twice within 7 days. Needless to say it made for a hellish honeymoon trip. Anyway - my thoughts on this: the highs & lows of bp do put a person in the mood to react irrationally, but as previous posters stated - I think abandonment is a deeper-seeded pscyhological issue that a lot of bp'ers have. My wife was in a horrible marriage for 10 years with a man that cheated on her. Her father was abusive when she was very young. All of this plus the bp contribute to these episodes. My heart hurts a lot and it is difficult not to engage & be angry when she constantly attacks me verbally and pushes me away. It is like a 3-year old in a grocery store throwing a temper tantrum. I do question if I did the right thing by marrying her, even though I do love her & her kids very very much. You are all definitely not alone.
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11/05/2007 14:36
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I am 49 years old and have a guy that couldn't tell me he is Bipolar just keep sucking me in and sucking me out! We have a bond my friend! I don't know how to handle him either but I want to! Keep me posted on your luck and I will you on mine! Hugs!
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11/05/2007 14:43
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I can completely relate to all of you. I was in a relationship and she left and came back and it is all do to her fear of abandonment which gets me because i have never left her, she is the one that leaves. Pretty confusing. But now we have been broken up for a month and a half and after a month of talking she is completely shutting me out to the point of ignoring all of my contacts. i just dont know what to do about it. its hard to show someone you are there if they shut you out. i feel like i make it worse by trying to let her know. do they come back?

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11/05/2007 16:41
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Bipolar people do that because they can't deal with what's going on around them. I've done it to people in my immediate past. Things get to be too much and we bail...often quickly. If they're unwilling to get help then you really should cut yourself loose of them, or support them from afar.
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11/05/2007 18:20
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MY future ex wife has refused to contact her son. He hurt her feelings on his birthday since the one time in 6 to 8 months that she initiated contact he refused to speak to her. But he is a kid. He sent her flowers with an appology the next week she never even acknowledged she got them. If she ever comes around to realize what she has thrown away she will probably be to late to repair the relationship with her son.
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11/05/2007 19:08
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My husband has been the worse he's ever been the past 5 months. You'd think 22 years together never happened. Thinks there is nothing wrong with him, verbally abusive, wrapped up in his own little world, says family and doctors don't know anything. He actually has to be wearing his body right out with all the drama. Acts like everythings fine, then stomps around banging the cabinets shut, extreme mood swings that can change at the drop of a hat. I don't know how he still functions at work (maybe stuff is going on there too but he doesn't talk to us about anything of significance so I don't know) I am wiped out. He is refusing to budge an inch.

Won't go to the doctor, won't quit drinking, won't stop spending us into the poorhouse, won't have a normal conversation, won't won't won't. I feel so sad, numb and betrayed. I really don't want to divorce him but I feel like he is actually forcing the situation upon us. Then he can blame me for that too.


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11/06/2007 07:03
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I remember when I was a kid I left a note for my Mom and Dad and then ran away. My note told them that I was no good and that they should just leave me to whatever ends I found. It really is like that too. You don't want people to get too close because deep down you KNOW that you're going to have episodes and shut them out or hurt them somehow.

You genuinely care about someone, but just are unable to sustain relationships. It has almost destroyed my life. I've tried to do my own businesses and that's what I'm working on now, and it always gets started well, and then I'll freak out and won't call anybody, won't accept any phone calls...I'll just sit by myself and drink. Drinking is what numbs it, or makes you go to sleep so your brain will shut up.

I have a wonderful wife who stood by me through a bunch of crap that I pulled. I left her just over a year ago during one of my times. We still talk but I don't know if the damage can ever be undone. This illness has sabotaged everything good in my life. I get truly dysfunctional to the point where I can't even carry on a conversation. We really don't like being like this (at least I don't and don't think others do either).

This is kind of rambling I know, but maybe it sheds more light.

Justin



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11/06/2007 07:13
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I know what you all mean. My wife has shut me out. She has moved to her mom and dads and only calls me when she needs something. She gets irritated when I call her. I have tried everything to show her that I am here for her and that I love her. I have sent her flowers, cards. I have left her sweet messages. I am at a total lose right now. She refuses to spend anytime with me. She says she does not feel like she loves me. She says she thinks our getting married was a mistake. I don't want to end our marriage but she has been this way for the past 8 weeks now and staying at her moms for the past 4 weeks. She just found out she has bipolar 2 weeks ago and she says she now has alot of things to figure out. She is talking with her ex husband and she has been spending time with him. She says it is only because she is trying to figure out how she was in the past. She says she has trouble remembering how she reacted to things and that is why she is talking to him. I want to beleive her but with her not wanting anything to do with me it is hard to beleive anything she says right now. So is her behavior normal for someone with this illness? Or am I getting played while she is trying to work things out with her ex?
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11/06/2007 08:04
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Hi,

I am sorry you all are going through such a hard time with your bipolar spouses.

I am also bipolar, but, since, I have gotten in to recovery for my alcaholism, and have gotten help with my bipolar, (getting on meds, and getting into therapy), I haven't had to behave that way anymore. I had to get help when, I was ready, though.

I had to be tired of living the way, I was living, and tired hurting others with my disorder. No one could convince me that I had a problem, until, I could admit it myself.

I was not a very good parent or spouse as long as I was running, and acting out in my sickness. It took a long time until, I was ready to take meds, and take responsibility for my illness. It wasn't anyone's fault.

I have read alot of post's by people who ask, why we act the way we act, and do we really care? We act the way we do, because, we are sick, and dillusional, and are constantly cycling between being depressed and manic. When I am Manic, I don't consider my current reality, I feel like superman, and can run on it for as long as possible, until, I drop in to a depression, that is suicidal, and horrible. That is why I hide out. I have a disease that tells me I am fine, and I don't have to take meds. In the mania I don't live in reality. In depression, my head runs, and I get angry, and negative, and suicidal. We run, because, we think we are failures, and no one wants us around. We also can run because we are on a mission from hell and want to be able to do what we want to do, without others keeping us from it.

The problem is I won't stop until, I am done with all of this insanity. Which takes a lot. I couldn't stop. Until, I got on meds, and got into therapy, I could not stop my behavior.

So, I just wanted to share this to explain why we act so crazy, and hurt people. We don' realize we are hurting people, until we come out of the mania. I would have psychotic episodes, and lose it, and would have no control over my feeling and behavior.

So, I think it's important that the spouse get help, too. If you are going to stay in a relationship with someone who is continuing to cause harm to you, than, I would get involved in some kind of support group, or therapy. You don't have to keep supporting anyone who doesn't want help, and who is off acting out in their disease. They are not ready to get help, if they are continuing to run on their insanity, and wont stop.

I was not capable of being a mother, or partner to anyone when, I was out acting out on my bipolar. I have had two failed relationships in my life due to my disorder.

I am in a good relationship, now, and my S/O and I have both had problems, but, we were both willing to get help. I with my bipolar, and he with his gambling, and anger issues. We are now doing very well. I used to focus on his problems, thinking that if he were to just get help, we would be fine. Well, when he finally got help, and stopped acting out, I still had the same issues, that I had before, except, I couldn't blame him anymore. That's when, I got help with my issues, and found out, I was bipolar, and finally got on meds.

There were times where, I was faced with a decision. To continue living in the sickness, or find a solution. I had to find my own happiness, with or with out him. I had to be okay with myself.

I also had to make these decisions for my kids, too. I had to help my kids and me get to a place where we were living a good life not an unhappy one. Anyway, that's enough of my ramblings, I hope this has helped someone. God bless Gypsy

God Bless,Gypsy
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11/06/2007 08:15
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It's so great to hear that things turned around for you gypsy. I don't think I ever realized before that the mania was so present and I really just thought that I was depressed and/or a failure. Now, at my 11th hour I'm hoping like hell that I can get help and start dealing with some of these things. Realizing it is the first step, right? Well I've hurt myself and others enough.

Hotrod, that's a tough one there. There is a possibility that she's really trying to get help and understand, but we can be pretty manipulative. I think it would be best to be cautiously optimistic.

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