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05/08/2008 12:54
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Thank you so much, warhorse. I had no idea the suicide rate was that high for BPs. I passed along that information. If nothing else, maybe it will scare him into getting help. I know that he may never come back to me and we may never make a life together, but I want to see him become the man I knew and loved. I want to see him laugh again and know that he is taking care of himself. I am trying my best to take care of me. I am trying to relearn how as I seem to have lost myself in him these past two years.

Let me ask this. Is it possible that this is a new illness and that the trauma of his divorce and of his losing his wife prompted the onset of BP? Or has he had it all along and it was dormant? I am unsure of the facts of BP, but I dont recall his ever showing signs of BP prior to this. I just wondered. Thanks!


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05/08/2008 13:16
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From what I understand, traumatic events can act as a trigger for an episode of mania or depression, but the underlying BP was probably there all along.
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05/09/2008 12:06
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I too was curious about this- I think my sister is bipolar 11 (no psychosis that we know of) - I see her becoming much much worse anytime there is a major life stressor - such as a death in the family, or divorce or job loss etc. Seems to be a vicious cylce though - for example her first marriage - it was very rocky because she has such a hard time getting along with people (comprimising, and seeing someone elses point of view are greatly difficult for her, also I suspect extreme sexual demands and out of control spending) so this led to a breakdown of the relationship which led to worsening symptoms. Same thing with jobs - cannot get along with anyone and changes jobs/is fired every two or three years which leads to another cycle of depression/mania.

Its too bad - we all have to deal with this stuff - people die, husbands (bipolar or not) can be totally useless and unhelpful at times (lol) and everyone has probably been fired/laid off at some time. I guess for those of us who are healthy it is so much easier to roll with the punches, whereas for someone with bipolar, all these life events trigger worse problems, and are sometimes caused by the bipolar person themselves.

In our family, everything is made worse by my sister. Right now dad is very ill. In addition to the stess of dealing with this, we have no meaningful support or help from sister, and she is going out of her way to cause new problems that my brother and I have to clean up (like the doc at the nursing home dropping dad off his patient roster because he wont deal with my sister) These things are happening because the stress of the situation is creating a cycle for her of mania/depression. I think my bro and I understand that, but we also feel like we are shipwrecked on an island together in the middle of a storm trying to cope. And then what do we do when we get more bad news- my bro just found out his MIL has stomach cancer. So I try to support him and my SIL with this, because I know my sister will not be there for either of them.



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05/10/2008 08:43
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I think it's safe to say that if any of you guys met my husband, you would already have a good idea of who he is. LOL

When my husband has something stressful happen, he can't cope with it and it's basically "the end of the world" for him. It's like his coping mechanism is ka-put! He is the ultimate drama king, but he's my king... and he wants to be treated like a king, and I do treat him like a king (if I'm treated like the queen I am! [dramatice laugh]).

But seriously, I know what you mean, CherylAnn. If we are planning to camp out and it suddenly starts to rain, he just looses it. He starts blaming us that we "didn't get ready fast enough" or I "didn't check the weather". It's always someone else's fault. It seems like he always exaggerates the stress in each situation. I know some people who won't associate themselves with us because of my husband's behavior.

On the good side, he's getting better! He's becoming more and more self-aware and much better at dealing with situations.... well, with SOME situations. He still has his moments. The point is: He's really trying and I can see that. And as long as he keeps trying, that's all that matters to me.

Funny thing happened yesterday. I've been at home taking care of our 9 month old daughter. My husband has been working for the last 20 days straight, 12 hours a day. He came home last night, tired. He walked in, she gave him this big smile. He smiles a little, but you could tell he wasn't in the greatest of moods. I said, "Look! It's da-da!" and she said her first word: "Da-da!"

His whole face lit up and he dropped his jacket and lunch bag and grabbed her. I told my sister what had happened and she said, "She hardly sees him and she's with you all the time and she said, 'da-da'??" That's right. And you know what? That's totally okay. Seeing them bond together like that was just so heart warming. It was cute. I cherish anytime that my husband is in a good mood.

"It is the fool who looks for logic within the chambers of the human heart." -George Clooney's character on "O Brother, Where Are Thou?"
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05/10/2008 09:00
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MusicMom, Congratulations on babies first words! So glad he was there for her first words, it means alot to us dads. You do know that once you teach them to talk you spend the rest of your life trying to get them to stop! LOL

I have found one of the keys to avoiding triggers is a stable enviroment. My wife and I have intentionally created a safe stable enviroment, not many suprises in life here on the farm. If there is a stresser, we try to remove it. There are still those things that cannot be prepared for but not having all of the other stressors makes it easier to deal with the suprises when they come along.

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05/11/2008 05:58
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I so wish my sister would get some help, and thus learn to create a stable environment for herself. I think it would go a long way towards dealing with lifes little surprises. If I think about the roller coaster of emotions I was on when I heard about my moms terminal cancer diagnosis and then extrapolate how someone who is manic/depressed might feel..

However, she is still in a stage where she does things that down the road cause instability for her.. ie. a few years ago she bought a house that had a mortgage roughly equal to her pay check. It doesn't take Einsteen to figure out thats a recipe for disastor, when end of month rolls around and theres no money for food. And don't ask how she was able to get all those mortgages! She can be very charming and persuasive. (As my brother says - she presents well)

I am quite confused though about how the mood disorder works. She has from what my bro and I have seen very distinct and obvious manic phases(irritable, not listening, not sleeping and multiple projects on the go) and also depressed states (i.e doesn't get out of bed at all on her birthday, or don't hear from her for months and so on)

However, we can't figure out when normal and stable is? Also, in between cycles, don't you usually try to fix the mess that has been made (repair relationships, pay off debts and so on) - we never see normal. She always seems to be in one or the other or sometimes both at the same time if that is possible. What does this mean.. is she rapid cycling? As far as I know there is no psychosis, that she has told anyone about, well, she did once mention having dreams about bugs that was so real that she changed all the sheets on the bed, but other than that. How about false beliefs - is that a form of delusion or psychosis. She gets the weirdest fixed ideas about things and even when presented with the facts will stick to her idea.

Anyway, any input is valuable. We are trying so hard to cope and understand.

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05/11/2008 18:58
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Hi Cheryl, you and your brother are pretty informed. Understanding the BP moods and personality give you an advantage, and the ability to be on the "outside", observing as opposed to reacting, and riding the emotional roller-coaster with her. Has anyone ever suggested to her that she may want to be evaluated for BP? I am sure any hint from you or your brother, that she is not mentally sound will not be well received.

With the BP,comes a narrow perspective. It is true that they believe some unfounded "truths". This ,I think, is because everything passes thru the "Me" filter, and some mental distortion, before it is stored in the brain as a fact. My husband has an older sister, who we always called the "crazy sister", and with my recent understanding, strongly believe to be BP. Thru the years, she borrowed thousands of dollars, which she never paid back, wronged ex-husbands, and family members--and has no understanding of "why" everyone avoids her. I remember her always on the go--- busy, busy, busy, partying, and all her ME STUFF was so important, she didn't care who she walked over, as long as she got her way. Her truth, now, is that everyone else is so cold-hearted. My truth is that she made it to 56, living like this, so who am I to try to make her want to change? Any attempts to open up and let her into our lives, I'm sure would start very graciously, then progress to her controlling, and rude and demanding. She still drinks heavily, and has pulled some really bizarre stunts. So, I guess, what I am saying, is I don't think there is much you can do to change your Sister's behaviors. Only she can decide if her life is unmanageable. You will probably have to skillfully, work around her boldness and the moods, and get comfortable with "expecting the unexpected" The compromising and polite social gestures will be in short supply, as you continue to help your Dad.

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05/12/2008 05:19
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hmdrogers: People with BP disorder are born with it. It may take many years to "present" with an episode, but it has always been there. Quite often, a tramatic life event can "trigger" them.

The classic type of BP usually see either onset and/or first hospitalization in their early to mid 20's (which was the case with my husband.) He made it to 44 before requiring hospitalization again.

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Does it get any better? Can it get any worse?
Will it go on forever? Is it over tonight?
Does it come with the darkness? Does it bring out the light?
Is it richer than diamonds? Or just a little cheaper than spit?"--Jim Steinham
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05/12/2008 05:20
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Your husbands older sister sounds like she could be a twin to my sister. But like you, we are not rocking the boat with any kind of confrontation about her health issues. Subtle suggestions have not been met well. And she does function - hold a job, pays the mortgage and so on.

From what you are saying, it is possible that my sister is not rapid cycling, its just that overall her thinking has become so disordered by her disease, that even when her mood is normal, she does not have a lot of insight into what she has done, or is doing to other people? Makes sense to me.

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05/12/2008 06:01
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You know I often wonder if BP is what he has. I am reading everyone else's stories, and I know that each case is separate and individual in itself. However, this man has no problem in other aspects of his life. He has certain BP tendencies, such as the mood swings in a matter of hours, the lying, the leaving me for no reason, suicide tendencies, etc., but he has never had a problem with employment. He has been at his position and with the same company for 26 years. Is this possible? He has never had trouble holding down a job or with alcohol, but when he gets depressed he does drink more than he used to. I am afraid that this is a cycle that will keep on, and he is gone so I cant help him. He will not talk to me, and I do not know if or when he will return. As far as I know, I am the only one who has done any type of research on this for him, and I am the only one who has asked him to get help. I do not think he will do it on his own, but what can I do except stay away the way he has asked me to? I am really at a loss. I love him very much, but I cant force him to talk to me. And when I even just try to contact him (email) to see how he is he tells me that just seeing my email makes him start shaking cuz he thinks it means he has to make some sort of decision. I dont want to be a bad influence on him. I am just worried because there is no one else for him to talk to.

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