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02/07/2008 10:43
mizzruby83
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Hi ! I am new to the group. I believe my husband is bipolar- constantly up and down. He's fine one day the next he's so mean and abusive. He gets paranoid and acts and says irrational things. We have two VERY small children and one on the way. Things have gotten so bad that we are not even living with him. My children and I have been staying at my parents house for the past month. He refuses to get help. When hes normal he acknowledges that there is something wrong and that he will get help but then he keeps putting it off.I just dont know what to do anymore. I dont know what more I can do to help or how much more I can take. I dont want to put my children through this. They dont deserve to see it or be hurt or scared of daddy when he gets into one of his moods. He gets loud and yells and screams starts throwing things and sometimes he gets physical and he doesnt care if they are next to me or not. I just dont know what to do anymore. I really dont
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02/07/2008 12:52
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Hi Miz Ruby,

I am in a similiar situation I think. I have been struggling to figure out what has been going on with my husband. We have been married almost four years, and we have a four year old son. I just started searching online about the possiblity that he is bipolar and am now pretty sure of it. It is one thing reading the list of symptoms, another thing to read through this forum and see so much of our daily lives and struggles reflected in the posts of "strangers."

Now I am just scared, and very, very sad because I feel hopeless. It seems like such a big mental health problem to tackle, even if the person is able to accept that they have a problem and wants help. But what do you do with someone who refuses to believe that they are sick and thinks all therapists and their drugs are full of it?

I agreed to stick with him, through sickness and in health. But what about when the sickness hurts me and my son so badly? When he is feeling balanced, he will agree that there is something wrong, but he will only say, "I'm working on it, I'm working on it." But nothing changes.

I think you are a good mother to take your children out of that environment- I feel so guilty that I am letting my son be exposed to these mood swings.

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02/07/2008 13:07
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MizRuby -

I commend you for actually taking the steps to get out. I, unfortunately, am caught in the cat and mouse game that this disorder wraps us in. While at times I am madly in love, 90 % of the time is a struggle to keep my sanity and not fall back into depression. There is nothing you can do when they get into that state and things start to fly. My hubby actually threw a beer bottle into the wall and my 5 yr old daughter told every one that came over this is the spot daddy had to fix because he put a bottle in the wall. Needless to say we don't have a whole lot of company for this reason alone.

I agree with Cerde - what a brave woman you are and good mother. I should left a long time a go, but am unable to break the cycle.



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02/07/2008 14:07
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Every day I keep telling myself that I am doing the right thing by getting out of there but its so hard when my 2 year old asks for his dad and to go home back to his house everyday. I miss the man I fell inlove with but I definetly could do without the man he has been lately. Hes not working, hes not helping me hes been yelling at me. We have been fighting on and off since I left but he always begs for me to go back. Sometimes I feel like maybe it is my fault he is the way he is but his grandmother said hes been that way his whole life. I just feel so overwhelmed because I dont know what to do with him. I dont know if things will get better if he were to decide to get help. I know that if he wont get help then I dont even want to try anymore. By May I will have 3 children under the age of 3 and thats scary. Its scary becuase I dont know how I can support them and take care of them. I feel bad that my parents are helping us out so much right now. They dont understand bipolar at ALL. They think my husband is just immature and not a help. I just feel like I dont have many options anymore and I feel bad for not being able to do more for my kids.
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02/07/2008 14:13
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Jolamom-

I actually had a similar experience with a beer bottle getting thrown. I was pregnant with my son and I was trying to get my husband up for work. I had his clothes ready and he was running late because he didnt want to get up. When he finally got up he had 10 min to get to work before he would be considered late and it takes him 5 min to get there (Thank goodness) but 15 min to actually leave the house. He was angry at me for him not getting up on time and then he threw a fit because I had laid out his clothes for him and his socks were folded in on each other. He said I was stupid because it makes the socks lose their elasticity or something. And then he threw the unopened beer bottle at the dresser and got beer and glass everywhere. He stormed out without saying anything else. When he got back later that evening he was normal and apologized for throwing a fit. I cant beleive that was 3 years ago

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02/07/2008 16:39
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mizzruby and Cerde welcome to the site.

Ruby do not feel bad, you are doing the best thing possible for yourself and your children. You have removed yourselves from a hostile enviroment. This takes lots of courage. Your parents sound like they are being a wonderfully supportive.

Cerde, things are never hopeless. You are showing great strength.

Just remember you guys cannot do anyting to help them until they are ready to recieve help. The best thing you can do is take care of youselves and your children. You can also seek counciling youselves to help learn how to deal with the things going on.

There are many good people here that have a great amount of experience and compassion. Please feel free to come on in, ask questions, leave messages, vent and make friends. You are not alone, we are here whenever you want to talk.

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02/08/2008 08:21
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Thank you for the welcoming red1965. It has made me feel less alone just reading all of these responses.

My husband also has thrown things, but mostly slams doors and he ripped off the doorframe in our bedroom during a fit once. I am not sure if he is rapid-rapid-cycling or if he has mixed episodes- but his mood changes drastically sometimes several times a day and I have never known what triggers him. I am confused because part of me knows that I am in an abusive relationship, but the other part of me thinks I can't blame him because his chemicals are off. But then I think, abuse is abuse and probably all abusers have off chemicals? Just because he can't help it doesn't make it okay does it?

Miz. Ruby, I think your parents sound very supportive of you, and they are giving you an opportunity for a new beginning. Even if they don't understand your husband they love the kids you made together! Hopefully through their support you will be able to move forward and more options will become available. You still have so much time ahead of you to make your life and the lives of your children better.

Last night I started a letter to my husband’s parents. He is from Mexico and all of his family is down there- I think his family is one of the reasons I fell in love with him- they are such good people and they are all close. I know that they know he is difficult to live with and has problems, and from what I could get out of my husband, when he was a teenager they tried to get him to go to a therapist and get him medicated. Despite the language and cultural differences I know I can count on them. I guess my plan is to lay it out to them, tell them his symptoms, how it is affecting their grandchild and me, and then ask for their help to get him to a professional. I want to let them know that I feel like I am running out of options.



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02/08/2008 10:23
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Thank you Red for welcoming me and for the advice you have given.

Cerde, I think it is a good idea to get his family involved since they already know his history and his family is close. My husbands Grandmother and I talk everyday, she understands what I am going through because she helped raise him and she is not bias. She wants to help me and the kids and also wishes her grandson would get help to make our marriage work. She has tried talking to him and it seems to help him--- at least for a little while and then hes into one of his episodes again. My Fathers side of the family is mexican and they are all very close. When someone has a problem, any problem, they are all very supportive, the same way your husbands family is. Hopefully someone will be able to get through to him and help.

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02/09/2008 06:11
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Seeing you ladies posts this morning brings a question to mind. You both refer to families from Mexico being so close, I have a Chinese family that we are friends with that are really close.

The question:

Are we as a society here in America really growing further and further apart from our families?

With the family being one of the greatest of support groups as has been written in this thread, we can all get a little closer to our families. I feel the urge to call and check on my parents this morning.

I am glad that the both of you have families you can rely on. Give'm a big hug for me.

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02/09/2008 22:24
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I think Americas families are growing farther apart. Both my parents are immigrants and we are the first generation of Americans.Both my parents come from really close families. They instilled that in us. My husbands family on the other hand, is not close. His parents keep to themselves and only want to know good news. His grandparents are close to us and thats about it. I feel that if he had a stronger supposrt system growing up, maybe he would'nt have such manic episodes.

I give my mom a hug everyday. Shes the best.

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