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06/13/2008 12:47
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Hello, I am so thankful that I found this support group. I just need an outlet for my fears and depression that I am experiencing due to my husband's fits of rage (mania) during his bipolar stuff. I came out of an abusive marriage in the past so it is especially hard for me to make myself understand this craziness that is now my life. I don't want to be insenstive but I HATE going through this. I cry all of the time...I need some serious advice on how to set boundaries so that I can mentally and physically stay well myself. Thanks for listening as I poor over this through tears

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06/13/2008 16:54
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Welcome to the group. I think you will find what you are seeking here, support. There are many living in the same situation as yourself and will be able to share their stories and wisdom with you.

I am lucky that my husband has and still does seek treatment for his BP. But like you, I have had to learn how to cope with his sickness and how to keep my self and children strong. We have our good and bad days, weeks and months, but as a family we are still going strong.

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06/13/2008 20:13
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Well it appears my husband waited too long to fix things with his temper. He has been arrested tonight and I am so upset. He has been going back and forth with his emotions all day. He got so angry at me and when I lost it I told him I wouldn't be his burden anymore I would rather leave than be to blame for everything going/gone wrong for him. I came into my office and he busted through the door leaving a huge hole and getting right in my face. I found this threatening and he put his fists up and bent down and came at me and punched me. He tried to block me from getting out of the room to a phone but I remained calm and took the phone and called 911. I am so upset that they arrested him...I don't think it will do any good since he is sick. I am a wreck now...I am afraid how he will treat me now. It scares me how he can turn things on and off when he is down to the wire..its not like he blew up at the cops or anything. He completely changed in the 15-20 minutes it took for them to get here. He also kept saying that I am borderline personality and that is why the fight started. What a mess. How can you help the one you love? Since I divorced an abusive man that almost killed me I am very sensitive to any threatening behavior...yet I still feel bad for this happening. I wish I wouldn't have called the police but on the other hand maybe they will force him to get help.

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06/13/2008 20:20
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SadMe: Give us more of your story... Is he dx'd? Is he on meds and med-compliant? Is he in therapy? We care about what happens to you! Tell us the rest of what is going on...

I only have good internet access M--F, 7:30 a.m.--4:30 p.m. The rest is a gift from my old computer at home.

"Is this a blessing? Or is it a curse?
Does it get any better? Can it get any worse?
Will it go on forever? Is it over tonight?
Does it come with the darkness? Does it bring out the light?
Is it richer than diamonds? Or just a little cheaper than spit?"--Jim Steinham
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06/13/2008 20:35
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Oh thank God someone is up right now. I am ok but just emotionally freaked out. I occasionally suffer from PSTD when my husband has his mania episodes. I started to wonder about his mood swings and insisted that we go to counseling. He had mentioned to me once that he suffered from "rages" and was on medicine for it a long time ago. He never talks to me about the timeline and is very vague. The counselor turned out to be a bad one but did do me the favor of suggesting that he was bipolar. After internet research of the symptoms I definitely know that is the right diagnosis but not sure which type. I was hoping for the counselor to help out with that. He didn't stay on meds but only for about 2 months...Ritalyn! I couldn't understand that at all except that he is convinced that he ONLY has ADD. I agree with the ADD but am certain that he is bipolar from the medicine he said he was on..can't remember it at the moment. Do you think there is a way to force him to get help? The bad part is that we are really strapped for money and I believe that is why he is so worked up into a mania over money. I am quite sick and off work to get disability at this point. He likes to verbally abuse me about that and constantly accuses me of being his burden, lazy, and never do anything for him. It has been very hard. I tried to call a counseling office today so I can get some antidepressants. After tonight I think I may have to move 2 states away with my family. I am just very scared and very alone as I have no family here.
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06/13/2008 21:28
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dear sad me, i think i know a bit of how you feel. things can get stupid-crazy sometimes... you wonder how it can get so escalated. hmmm. well, it might help to know that you're not alone! (maybe a little bit anyway!) but, what to do is never an exact thing and it is usually somewhat complicated.

calling the police was the right thing to do considering the circumstances. don't feel bad, he could've hurt you and it really was a smart thing to do. he will forgive you when he looks back from a better point of view. don't beat yourself up about it anymore. he should know that doing that is not an option. i speak from experience.

what to do... alot of that depends on him and what he is willing to do. you can only help him if he'll move toward that himself. he probably needs a good p-doc who can give a proper diagnosis and treatment. something to look at is side-effects of any drugs he is taking. is it possible that something he is taking could exasperate his mood into a rage, or is it stricly a phase of a bipolar moodswing?

it is hard for people when they are labeled with BP (or any other label for that matter) and it takes time for someone to admit that and come to grips with it. then, some choose to try and deal with it, some try and run from it. but either way, one could try and understand why they might choose to run, as i say it isn't exactly a 'fun' thing to see in the mirror (so to speak).

fortunately, there are quite a few good examples out there of people coping quite well. you miight have to search around, but there are probably a few near you. (look for a local support group, hopefully peer-run... ours was a life-saver) also, there are some inspirational 'famous people' stories, try googling and you can find some.

perhaps this will be a wakeup call for him to get some help.

take deep breaths. you will get through this.

people here will help you in anyway they can.

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06/13/2008 21:45
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Thank you all for your kind help and encouragement. The police told me that I wouldn't be able to pick my husband up from the jail that someone else would have to. However I just got a call from my husband. He was quite upset and started to cry. That is the way it usually goes, anger, violence and then apologies.

Plugginalong-my husband is not on any meds right now. He explained that he was on Depacote (I just remembered the name of that med) years ago for what he said was called "rages". A couple of months ago the p doc had him on Ritalyn...I found that scary because his mania is so bad I worried about it getting worse on that stuff. Has anyone ever heard of getting Ritalyn for treating bipolar? I really stink at learning computer stuff so forgive me if my etiquette is not what it should be...I try to learn as I go...I like the smiley/etc. faces but can't figure that out yet! Thank you for your responses...amazing how anonymous angels can be!



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06/13/2008 21:51
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I forgot to mention that my husband went off of the Ritalyn about 2-3 months ago because he was trying to get a job as a professional pilot flying planes. I used to fly with him but when he had a manic episode in the air I became severely sick from the stress and was in bed for 4 days with a migraine. Anyhow, that soap opera ended during Memorial weekend just last month...he crashed his plane during a landing. We can't afford for him to continue training anymore. I think that is another reason he gets so angry at me regarding money and supporting me while I am sick and trying to apply for disability...however he has always been verbally abusive one minute and caring and giving the next.
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06/13/2008 22:09
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so. ideally.... he needs a firm diagnosis. then, he will hopefully accept it and start taking say Lithium or some kind of mood stabilizer. that would be a good start. of course, you need to take care of yourself too. make sure to eat healthy, get lots of rest. (probably too worried eh? well, really try. i mean, try to relax and not think about things that keep you awake worrying.) your rest and sleep are important. his too, really important.

so, maybe turn off your computer now and ... have some gentle dreams. it will WILL get better. you are at a turning point. we will all be here tomorrow to answer you more questions and try to be of support to you.

you sleep well.

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06/13/2008 22:40
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SadMe: He needs a firm dx from a pdoc, and needs to start taking meds. Don't know what the laws are in your state, but he might be able to start flying after that.
"Is this a blessing? Or is it a curse?
Does it get any better? Can it get any worse?
Will it go on forever? Is it over tonight?
Does it come with the darkness? Does it bring out the light?
Is it richer than diamonds? Or just a little cheaper than spit?"--Jim Steinham
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