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05/27/2008 07:35 PM
zapitolove

i am alommst fed up with my husband, i have been very patient with him but i feel thAT WE just cant get along anymore, the more i try it almost seems that he takes advantage of it and maybe not i dont know i just know that i am miserable with him and more miserable without him...frustration has kicked in. please advise
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05/28/2008 06:53 AM  Top
bejeweled
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I am with you on the whole frustration thing. My g/f cannot (and I am trying to convince myself of the cannot instead of the will not) help me with what she has put me thru for the last year. She is taking her meds and going to her therapist. Last night I struggled with what else she is doing that I don't know about....it breaks my heart and makes me angry. My insurance switches over on June 1st and then I will be able to get some therapy for myself. I definately feel taken advantage of. The thing is that she isn't really well enough to take advantage of me. I don't think. It is hard for me to focus on the fact that this is not a choice for her. I really struggle with that. The whole...well, if she really loved me thing....then she wouldn't act this way. Smarter people then me (her psychatrists) have decided that she has a serious mental illness. I am in a different place then you are right now because if she were to walk out the door, I would be ok. I know that. With him you are miserable indefinately and without him you would be miserable temporarily. If he is doing the things he needs to do to take care of himself, like taking his medications and going to therapy (those are musts) then maybe giving him some time to see if it works would be worth it. If he's not though, there is nothing that you can do to make him and it's probably better to move on. Life is short. Why live in misery? I know, easier said then done. Good luck with everything! Smile
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05/28/2008 07:10 AM  Top
WARHORSE
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Zapit: I read back thru your posts to try to put your story together... Is he on meds and in therapy?
"Well I won't back down
No I won't back down
You can stand me up at the gates of Hell
But I won't back down

No I'll stand my ground
Won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from dragging me down
Gonna stand my ground
And I won't back down"

=Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne

05/28/2008 07:57 AM  Top
keepthefaith
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Hi zap.

I know how frustrating it can be at times. When my wife Karen was manic, it was almost better when she was away, because she was so hard to deal with, but it was also worse, because I had to worry about her from afar. You say your husband is in denial, which leads me to believe he is not seeking any treatment, like seeing a psychiatrist, taking any medication or getting any counceling. If this is true, than things most likely won't change for the better.

What can you do? Probably not much. Has he ever been diagnosed as bipolar? If he really is bipolar, than you can try to convince him that he is and needs treatment. How can you do this? It won't be easy, if even possible. You can't control him, only yourself. Maybe you can do some things to encourage him, like setting limits and boundaries. You could try telling him he has to seek treatment and follow up on it or you are finished with him. I know that is hard to do, but do you want to continue on the way things are now? Only you can decide when enough is enough.

Either way, I wish you the best and hope you can find happiness.

Paul


05/28/2008 07:05 PM  Top
zapitolove

I see that this is a desicion i have to make, he just hasn't given me any reason to make this desicion I feel like holding on because i really love him but I am trying to work more with myself inorder to take better care of him, but i think he is the one that wants to let go and that really hurts because i feel abandon by him and he cant even tell me that he loves me nor does he say he feels love and he says he is being sincere withhimself. I am so confused is it really him taking? how much of that should I believe? to answer your queston he was diagnosed with bipolar and ADHD 2 years ago

05/29/2008 05:41 AM  Top
WARHORSE
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Zapit:

"I am so confused is it really him talking? how much of that should I believe?" If he's unmedicated and in denial, it's the illness talking. Should you believe him? Yes. How can he express love for you if he doesn't love himself first?

"Well I won't back down
No I won't back down
You can stand me up at the gates of Hell
But I won't back down

No I'll stand my ground
Won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from dragging me down
Gonna stand my ground
And I won't back down"

=Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne

05/29/2008 08:52 AM  Top
heatherr
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Wow, Im sorry to go somewhat off topic here but I was reading along and read something that stopped me on a dime.

"With him you are miserable indefinately and without him you would be miserable temporarily."

This speaks volumes to me. My main reasoning for not leaving is "i would be miserable without him". Your comment should have been an obvious fact but somehow it completely escaped me. Sad I, of course, love him and his children very much but I have stayed out of fear that I wont make it without him. Im embarrased to admit that...and reading your words, temporary misery, makes it a little easier.

Because Im frustrated and down, I wont sprinkle my negativity onto your situation Zapit. Good luck to you!


05/29/2008 08:54 AM  Top
WARHORSE
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Heather: I'm sorry to hear that you're down. Are things not going well?
"Well I won't back down
No I won't back down
You can stand me up at the gates of Hell
But I won't back down

No I'll stand my ground
Won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from dragging me down
Gonna stand my ground
And I won't back down"

=Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne

05/29/2008 09:10 AM  Top
heatherr
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he just turns into someone I dont like when we have a disagreement. A few weeks ago, he took every card, letter etc...that i ever wrote him and threw them all away because we had a fight (because he was in the bar at 1 in the afternoon) and the next day, acts like nothing ever happened. He has been distant and rapid cycling...staying up all night long, sleeping half the day, blowing money but refusing to WASTE money on food or things like that, blaming me for everything, paranoid and psyco lately. Barely talks to me most of the time but wants me to have sex with him all the time. Classic Mania

Im just feeling out of emotion and hurt beyond repair. I want to pack up and move to florida and leave no return address, but the kids dont want to go anywhere. I dont know what to do.


05/29/2008 11:22 AM  Top
cassaboo
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I feel for all of you because I am going through the same thing myself. My fiance' had a breakthrough though 3 weeks ago where he was so out of control and just so tortured in his own mind that he made some drastic actions which caused him to really scare himself into going to doctor and get on medication. Because as much as I begged and pleaded with him to go get help he refused to listen to me or get help until he made the choice on his own. He was having such parnoia and delusional thoughts and the accusations against me were so far out there that this was the only time in my life I have ever feared for my life. I started coming up with a plan to leave if I had to and talked to a few people and established some "safe houses" that I coud go to at any time. Luckily he chose on his own to get help otherwise I'm not sure how much longer I could have lasted. The biggest thing I have learned is that when they are having an episode and they say very hurtful things, it's not them, it's the condition talking through them. I used to sob at the fact that this man who was once so much in love with me now claims he has no love for me, has says he hates me, and accused me of things that in his heart he knew wasn't true. Then once he came out of this, he was sorrowful, remorseful, and very loving so it was very hard to know what his true feelings were. He thought our house was bugged, that the government was out to get us, the mafia, you name it and he thought they were after us. Then somehow it went from "out to get us", to "your in on it too, your conspiring against me". Then he had accused me of killing all my ex boyfriends and "hiding the bodies" he was obsessed wanted to read my e mails and everytime my cell phone rang he would junp and grab it to look at the caller ID then throw the phone down. We had to keep the blinds closed and I wasn't allowed to open them because "they" were watching us and he would constantly look out the blinds every time a vehicle went by or there was a noise outside. He slept in a seperate room with the door locked and would sleep for hours and hours, and sometimes he would not come out for days. He would spend large amounts of money on things he didn't need at all, but then afer spending the money feel guilty and throw the stuff away. He would accuse me of spending money on stuff we didn't need even though I was being as frugel as possible do to his irrational spending. He thoguht that his CD's and DVD's had tracking devices in them that was monitoring us so he got rid of all those. Then he would walk around the house and randomly pick up things or talk to the air as if he wanted "them" to know he knew "they" were listening in. This is when I really started to get that sick feeling in my stomache that I knew I had to make a choice whether to leave him or not. To this point I had dealt with the foul language, the loud angry outbursts and throwing things, and the lack of sympathy and love towards me. But the paranoia is what REALLY SCARED me because at that point I felt like he could snap at any moment and I was NOT about to let myself be another victim. So the breaking point for him was when he abruptly quit his job and became suicidal and that's when I panicked. I was on the phone with the sheriff's office and had them drive by to see if he was home for fear that he was going to commit suicide. At this point I was faced with two very difficult choices, do I go home and face him? Or do I not go home and find a place to stay for the night and then when I have a sheriff escort me inside the next day what will I find, will he be dead? Will he go crazy on the sheriff? Or will he hate me for the rest of my life if I leave him? So I had all my "on call" people on alert in case I needed to make a quick escape, and with that I decided to call him and see how is mood was then go from there. I want to stress that you can never rationalize with a person who is in a manic state because it will only escalate things and jeopordize your safety. He was sad and depressed and wanted to just run away and escape. So at this point I felt that spending the next hour and a half with him on the phone would determine my decision. So after getting him to a breaking point where I was ble to give him an altimatum, but being cautious about how I worded things so I wouldn't send him over the edge. I said that I felt like he deserved better for himself, and said "aren't you sick and tired, of feeling constant torment in your mind", "only living half your life, instead of the full and happy life your deserve, because you are a better person then this disease and deserve better then what you are allowing yourself to live". He got real quiet and said "yes, I want better". I said "Then you have the power to change that,no one else can but you, and you have to want it, you have to want to get better". I also pointed out that if he continues to run and push people away then he is never going to feel any type of peace, and that the people that love him will still love him, but love him from a distance because of the enviorment he is creating that will cause him to end up alone. That's when he agreed that he needed help. So I came up with a plan to come home that night and we would find a doctor that would help him and his condition. I also told him that I was proud of him for finally making an effort to get help and that this is going to be a long journey ahead of us but a brand new life for him, but only if he follows through and goes to the doctor and gets on medication. Positive reinforcment when they are in a vaulnerable state is a key element into convincing them to get help. Some of the fear that they experience is the "change" and they don't do well with change especially if they feel like they are being forced to change and that when it becomes a control issue to them. So encourage them to take babysteps in the whole change proces, then they won't feel so overwhelmed and give up. Most importantly I stressed that this is a chemical imbalance in his brain and it can be controlled by medication that is designed to help balance him out. SO..that hurdle of getting him to a doctor and on medication has been reached, BUT the big thing now is getting him to take his medication every day. The first two weeks after going to the doctor and getting medication were VERY rough, and he was lying about taking his medication and would get mad when I would ask, and even accused me of having something going on with the doctor, and skipping doeses because he felt "fine". But as he has been gradually getting the medication in his system the more suttle improvments I see, which I won't dare tell him for fear he will go off the medication. SO with all this said, I hope any information in this repsonse will help you with things, and know that I am here for all of you to talk, or vent, or to lend a shoulder to, because I know what you all are going through, and I am going through it myself.
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