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09/07/2009 04:39 PM
BFofaBPgrl
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How do you know if / when your sufferer is stable? what does it look like? what are the signs? I don't know if my gf has ever been truly stable. thanks for your feed back.
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09/07/2009 08:25 PM  Top
checksinthemail
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Hi BFofaBPgrl -

Quick answer: Have her do a daily mood chart - it will help you both out. See this page: http://www.healthyplace.com/bipolar-disorder/diagnosis/ bipolar-mood-chart/menu-id-67/ for instructions.

Best of luck!


09/08/2009 12:09 PM  Top
mem7284

Checksinthemail--Thanks for sharing the link. I might use it to chart my kid's behaviors.

BFofaBPgrl--I wish I had an answer for you, but I'm still trying to identify triggers and signs of stability myself.


09/08/2009 03:04 PM  Top
YorkieLove
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Another free chart that I like is at www.moodtracker.com

When I'm stable I don't have anxiety, negative thoughts, worry or excess energy.

In fact, I would say that energy level and sleep patterns are the biggest indicators of stability or instability. If she can function in her daily life and keep reasonable hours and activities, she's probably stable.

Basically, is she able to get up and do things that a normal person would do (work, go to school, clean house, etc.) in a normal fashion and does she get too much or too little sleep?

Lisa

My advice is purely personal. I am not a Doctor and there is NO substitute for getting proper medical diagnosis and advice.

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09/08/2009 06:11 PM  Top
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I sometimes think I don't recognize stable anymore. It has been so long since we had a consistent mood in this house that wasn't driven by mania or depression. However, over the last few weeks my hubby has been on Seraquel and while there are still eggshells and distance - I see more interaction, more ability to hold conversations without ramblings, have conversations with mixed opinions and no battle erupt, a tone or tolerance of things which normally would set him off or send him into hiding.

When I met my hubby I do believe he was hypomanic - therefore, I really don't know stable, and sometimes I wonder if he does (no sarcasim intended). I guage stable by the ability to function within the family in a state which is neither too manic or depressed. The point in which the house suddenly doesn't feel like eggshells.


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09/08/2009 06:33 PM  Top
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BFofaBPgrl , Well i think for each person it is a individual thing . Usually when they are able to have appropriate feelings for given situations .Also as mentioned regular sleep patterns

Post edited by: grafxbydiane, at: 09/08/2009 06:36 PM

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09/12/2009 09:18 PM  Top
BFofaBPgrl
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I can relate tot he eggshells thing. I feel like i have to measure every syllable before i say it lest I offend my gf. I don't know if i'm over sensative but she talks to me like I'm worthless. Like I'm a child. she flies off the handle for no reason. It's her tone of voice that really gets to me. I ask her a simple question and I always get this anxiety ridden "are you stupid?" tone from her. it stresses me out, because she sounds stressed. Yes I may ask the same question more than once. That sends her into a rage. I'm exaggerating a little. It's like she expects me to remember every word and ever conversation we've ever had. I ask her something that I know I've never asked before and then she accuses me of not listening to her because one day she told me about that already. It might have been months ago, but she expects me to remember it even the tiniest details. it's so infuriating. Every time we try to have a normal conversation it turns into a screaming match then a crying session. I don't know what to do. I've been managing the best I know how but it doesn't seem to help anymore. Sad I just wish I had someone who understood my side without judging me. Without turning around and saying well you did a. b. c. d. and e. wrong. How can YOU change to fit what SHE needs? Look I don't want to offend anyone. I just don't know what to do or to whom to turn. I'm in need of some help myself and I don't think that's fair. I don't think being in a relationship where you send each other to therapy is a healthy relationship. any thoughts?

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09/12/2009 11:50 PM  Top
checksinthemail
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You're not offending me at all. I know the drill; run the gamut of that for 7 years.

I have no problem with you letting that frustration out.

After you're at peace (and you're not making your decision out of the immediate frustration of it all), then you have to decide what you can do about it. You can stay or leave. If you stay, you can work on it or not work on it (keep eggshell tip-toeing)

If you work on it - how will you work on it? Will it be both of you or just you? If it's just you it's not going to work, you might as well go back to leave or not work on it, as that's very hard.

You are so not alone in these feelings. Most of not all of us here have felt the same way. I wish I could set a shining example of having made it and gotten the ultimate question to how to live happily ever after with a Bipolar (didn't make it past this summer). Set boundaries, don't put all your eggs (hopes and dreams for the future) in one basket, learn not to be an enabler/rescuer, and detach. She and you, will be better served by a little more distance.

Julie Fast's book "Loving someone with Bipolar disorder" would be good for you to read right now: http://www.amazon.com/Loving-Someone-Bipolar-Disorder-Julie/ dp/1572243422

If you are in need of some help - get a therapist for yourself. At this point sounds like it would be really good.

No it's not healthy BFofaBPgrl (funny - my handle used to be BoyfriendOfBipolar, some 5 years ago). So you can try to make it better (with her help), walk free, or ignore everything and eat the stress. She can do the same. It isn't healthy for either of you.

Best of luck and a hopes for a happier future together.


09/13/2009 07:34 AM  Top
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Well said Checksinthemail - if the old cliche "life isn't fair" is one you believe, then you need to believe "life with BP is never going to be fair". It will always be an unbalanced relationship. Period. End of sentence.

I am not saying it won't or can't be fullfilling. But the balance will never sway from one partner's needs to the other. There will not be equal giving and taking. You can control the beast, you can minimize episodes by recognizing triggers, you can be part of the treatment plan and develop strategies. There are many things you as a partner can do, and many things you just can't do.

One thing you can't do is "kinda be there for them". You have to decide if this life changing illness is something you can live with, because it never ever goes away. Doesn't mean with a revelation of understanding you won't falter, or have bad days (we may not have a mental health disorder, but we are human). If you believe you can go the distance, there are people out there who reportedly have very fullfilling lives together. Those do seem to be the expecption, not the norm. It all depends on the severity of the illness, willingness of both to work towards how to manage the illness, compliance to meds & treatment, living structured lifestyles which may alter how you typically have lived, how much family and friend support you have... the list is endless of what it takes to make it all work. But it can work. But takes special people to make it happen. There are days I am way over the top and ready to throw in the towel, walk away and let someone else deal with him. Then there are the days, I see a glimpse of the man I fell in love with or have a hope that I might see him and I dig my heels in to try some more.

Loving Someone With Bipolar is an excellent book, was referring to it just this morning. I have also found the Everything Health Guide to Adult Bipolar Disorder to be very enlightening too. I quoted from it last night and it states "to be diagnosed with bipolar is to be given the most serous mental diagnoses you can be given". If this is true, then obviously it isn't an easy road to travel and will be difficult. You have to find a way to keep yourself healthy (physically & mentally) and then work on & with your partner. If you think the relationship is sending each other to therapy, then you haven't accepted the illness yet. Because it isn't the relationship sending you to therapy - it is the illness.

Once you separate the two, it makes it easier. Not easy. Just easier to accept and begin to work through.

My understanding and life became better when I stopped trying to learn what BP is and started learning how to cope with it. I no longer care why he has it, does he have it, what has caused it. I now just focus on how to control it, how to avoid triggers, how to deal with episodes.

You will not offend anyone on this site with your feelings. Depending on the day we may be venting, laughing, crying, screaming, raging, sarcastic, supportive, hopeful or full of despair.... You will find we rapid cycle right along with our partners - but the good news is we see it, recognize it and are here to help each other through it.


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09/14/2009 09:15 PM  Top
TBARR
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So there is no happy ending then? The mother I once knew is really gone forever? It's painful but what I need to know...This is the first time I have looked into my mothers BP to better understand it.

Loving a person with bp has been the most painful relationship of my life...it's like someone hugs and kisses you only to pull away and punch you in the face. I keep falling for it over and over.

I have been reading so many post on this site and they have really helped me understand my mothers illness and that I need to do some work on acceptance. I really struggle with this part, I feel fearful in letting my mother back into mylife.

She sent me an evil letter a few months ago and I just couldn't take another roller coaster ride with her BP. I finally said to her that I'd had it, no more. Now she has been sending me the loving postcards (a pattern).

I just am so confused, can anyone help me?

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