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04/03/2008 15:32
DeeSTroyd
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I have to use my brother's computer because he spies on me....

My husband has been OFF meds and manic for one year - yes, one year. I have been on the phone to Doctors, I have tried to get him help, of course he thinks he is fine and EVERYTHING IS MY FAULT

HE has been so mean and rotten - he has worn me out. I am ugly, stupid, unworthy of him, nothing I do is right, My head is too big, my butt is too wide, maybe I should color my hair, I need to earn more money, I am worthless.... on and on and on and on and on

HE was taking something that worked for EXTREME mania but he took himself off of it. HE is untolerable and yet he tells me he is divorcing me because I am horrible. He cannot keep a job, has run off all our friends, he spys on me, listens in on my phone conversations because I "cannot be trusted" AND yet I have found emails for YEARS where he is setting up discreet meetings with other women. He will not touch me as I am not pretty enough, but he tells everyone else that I will not "give him any sexual attention"

When I have he has rejected me called me names that crippled me so badly I had to go to therapy just to survive another day with him.

It will be ONE full year next week that he has been manic. Crazed, mean, nasty and horrible for a year. The Doctors say this is unusual and I can commit him but in this state he will be out in a week and come after me. HE tells me he hates me all the time but he will not leave. I have no where to go, he has family he can live with. I cannot stay at my brother's (I asked and he said no he does not want the husband coming after him)

Can this go on forever? He is so full of himself, he is cute, but he isn't all that hot -- not like he thinks he is... We have been together 9 years and he has been in and out of mania -- but this time he just is stuck in it...

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04/04/2008 06:21
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Dee: I am so sorry for what you are going thru... Yes, I have read where mania can last for years in slow cyclers (BP1). Unfortunately, it sounds to me like you need to get away from this guy for your own personal safety. File for divorce and sell the house. At least you would have a little cushion to survive on. Tell us more about your current situation. Do you have any friends or family you can stay with?
"Is this a blessing? Or is it a curse?
Does it get any better? Can it get any worse?
Will it go on forever? Is it over tonight?
Does it come with the darkness? Does it bring out the light?
Is it richer than diamonds? Or just a little cheaper than spit?"--Jim Steinham
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04/04/2008 11:18
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This is the hardest thing I'll say on this board...but get out now. I don't usually believe in divorce, but nine years of personal hell is enough, you do not have to put yourself through this. If he is refusing to take medication that doctors told him he needs and he is treating you this way, then the only thing you can do is whatever needs to be done to take care of you. It sounds like your own personal, physical safety has been threatened. File for divorce and find someone to stay with. If you are worried about him coming after you than file for a restraining order. This is not a small matter, it is serious. Committing him might help. Even if he is out in a week it will be after a week's worth of meds and doctors. The week would be long enough for you to file necessary paper work, and he might actually come out better off. It's a hard situation, I'm so sorry he is putting you through it. Come to us whenever you can and we will do our best to support and help you through this trying time.

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04/04/2008 19:07
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OMG

It can last for years?

I have to get out of here. It is like living with a raging bull, jumping around destroying everything. When he does go on meds will he feel badly about how he treated me? Will he ever realize? Or do they just NEVER get what they do to people because of the imbalance?

I have got to go...

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04/04/2008 19:44
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Dee, my understanding of what happens when the person comes down from the mania is that the knowledge / remorse sends them into depression. The higher they go the farther they fall. There in... the rollercoaster ride.
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04/04/2008 20:14
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Dee

So sorry to hear about your sitaution, but I agree with the others. Out maybe the only safe way for you.Didn't realise that it could last so long....Hang in there though.


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05/16/2008 17:09
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Hi Dee, I am Bipolar. I never had a problem with my long term memory even when I was using alcohol and pot to get manic. In fact I remembered so much it was becoming this complicated demon in the complexities of my mind. That's just me thhouh.

When I was 21, back in 92 far before I was diagnosed I am pretty ceertain that my mania or hypomania more than likely would last a month to 3months followed by a one, two, othree day crash. It went on like this for 2 and a half years and gave way more and more to depression. so much was situational though and I was so young.(it is a progreesive disease) so I have a difficult time being certain about events in my life but this is the best I can ascertain my experience for you.

My sister just fled for her life from domestic violence prompted by the use of cocaine and quite possibly mood disorders. He almost killed her 3 months ago and she just went back!!! If you have been riding on a merry go round stop now. If you are in danger, get out now. If he will not admit a problem when you can find him best relaxed get out of the relationship because he will not improve. If you simply can not live with the abuse, at the very least separation is perfectly reasonable. If you can give him an ultimatum give it to him before or after you leave whichever is more prudent.

Finally, he might not be Bipolar. His symptoms sound quite like someone with Borderline Personality Disorder to me (except that you used the word mania) A lot of doctors get this wrong. My fiancee is Borderline and he sounds like her and by the way she was just diagnosed bipolar.

Go to the borderline group here on mdjunction just to make sure of what you are dealing with. It would explain the great hate followed by not wanting tou to leave. Was he abused as a kid?

You may have to leave. I am sorry for your pain.

Jeff Davis

" Don't you see what this means? We live by each other... for each other. Alone we can do so little, TOGETHER we can do SO MUCH! This is my message of HOPE and INSPIRATION to all mankind. "
--(Helen Keller [blind and deaf as a toddler to one of the first women college graduates from a demanding college.] with the loving help of her teacher.)


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05/16/2008 20:10
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Deestroyd, when I read your situation I just felt like I had to respond. I feel terrible for you. I went through a similar experience. My stepmother was BP and sounds EXACTLY like your husband. Dear god I can't imagine how you have stayed with him. I would describe my stepmother's mania the same as your husband. I couldn't even picture her as a human being in my mind. She was just this huge ball of RAGE!!! Being SCREAMED at endlessly (literally hours), called names, slapped because she hates the way your hair looks or whatever, this went on day after day. It seemed like she really wanted to kill me and I wanted to die!!! Also, I can totally relate to the delusions, being accused of things you haven't done, constantly spied on, ect. She was just relentless! I have spent most of my adult life in pain over my past BUT finally got on the right meds and don't dwell on it much. I would say she was in this manic state the entire time I had to live with her (15 years) EXPECT maybe 3 to 5 days each month when she seemed more normal. Maybe that is the worst case scenario but I don't know. If I were you I would probably obtain a legal separation because there is NOBODY that can comprehend the hell you have to come home to everyday unless they have lived through it!!! I feel like now I am dealing with borderline because of my past abuse. But borderline is nothing, I mean nothing compared to a Bipolar raging maniac!!!

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05/17/2008 21:45
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Deestroyd,

I also had to reply because your life sounds like a carbon copy of mine. My husband is Bipolar and almost constantly manic because he refuses to take his meds. He also thinks he is really hot and well ya know. My husband is degrading at best and terrifying at worst. He blames absolutely everything that goes wrong in life on me. He also spies on me and accuses me of constant infidelity while in fact he is the one who...well again you know. He is obsessed with the bank account yet won't put his name on it, however he doesn't mind using the debit card like he is Donald Trump.

My husband also always talks about how he will divorce me and start a new family. I can't help but think that would be the best thing that ever happened to me and our son.

I am sooooo sick of whatever this illness is that makes my husband get up every single morning and start a ruckus that most families have never seen. He calls everyone and talks bad about everyone, most of all me. His mother is on tranquilizers and shakes in her boots every single time he calls. And I swear she has like post traumatic stress disorder from dealing with him over the years. I wouls have laughed at that some time ago but after living with him, I feel I am starting to get it.

I know every morning is going to consist of banging of dishes, lots of heated phone calls and most of all extreme bashing of me. He makes a point of telling me off the last thing before he leaves in the morning along with the slamming door. Usually he says things like...you are a horrible mother-which is not true...your sister hates you and is talking shit about you, your kids hate you and I fuc**ing hate you and I hate it here and usually he says stuff "under his breath" which is really at a screaming point about whatever indiscretion he thinks I might have done. A crumb on the floor, or a dish in the sink. I don't have a dishwasher so there are usually dishes in the sink in the morning, because I do the dishes after dinner but then he usually eats 2 more times after that. He also gets livid because I am getting our son ready for school and I don't have time to listen to his long discourse on how everyone in the world is screwing him. But I really don't have time and frankly I've heard it all before like 1000 times so I'm not really that interested.

Ok thank you for the vent and I totally agree with most posters, you should get out of there as should I.

I wonder what makes people stay with people who are so horrible.

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