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04/14/2012 06:20 PM
yen
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I had contact with my mother (with whom I was estranged) on the phone today after hearing from relatives that she was in hospital. She stopped drinking cold turkey a couple of weeks ago (the drinking is self-medication to deal with bipolar), but as a result she collapsed- apparently if you drink as much as she has you can't just quit cold turkey or you can die. In addition to detoxing she now has a staph infection, keeping her in hospital.

I called to give her support for admitting the problem with alcohol... but she still refuses to see a psychiatrist or contemplate taking meds. She also puts the blame on others for the results of her own behaviour. For example, I posted a thread some time ago about how my sister had to decide not to invite my mom and stepdad (my sister's dad) to her wedding. They still don't accept their role in not being invited- according to my mom she has forgiven my sister, but my stepdad is still angry. From my perspective they should be begging HER forgiveness. So now I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do I tell her my views while she is extremely vulnerable physically? This would feel like kicking her when she's down. Do I keep my distance again? Do I walk the line, as I have for 20+ years, of being in contact and listening to her say things I disagree with and resenting it? Argh. This is how it usually starts- a crisis happens that scares her enough to stop drinking, life is fine for a while, and then the nonsleeping starts again and we're off on a new round of mania and depression.

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04/15/2012 09:52 AM  Top
Joy75
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That's awful that your mom is in the hospital. She must really drink a lot to collapse. Self medicating is not the way to go. It will just make it worse, but you know that. The staph infection could be really dangerous though and I hope they get it under control. That was very nice of you to give her some support. I wish she would see a psychiatrist. You can't make her though, she has to do it on her own. That's a tough decision you have to make here. I wouldn't walk the line like you always have because it sounds like you are miserable doing that. Maybe you could tell her your views when she is a little better that way it's not like kicking her when she is down. She has a responsibility to get help for her mental illness. Without help, it gets out of control. I hope that she doesn't start drinking again this time. You know the cycle it sounds like though, but maybe this one scared her into quitting. I'm sorry you have to go through this with your mother. It's got to be very frustrating for you. Pleas keep us updated on how you are doing. We care and will be here to support you. I hope you find peace with your decision.
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04/30/2012 09:48 AM  Top
invisiblenyc
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yen: I just saw your post about your mother. I am sorry to hear about her being hospitalized. I hope that the staph infection has been responded to treatment.

I have to second what Joy said about the downside of you walking the line with your mother. If your mother refuses to get both psychological counseling and medication for her BP then there is nothing you can do and every time she says unkind things to you you might as well punch yourself in the face because that is how your mother's emotionally abusive words are impacting your psyche. As long as you maintain any contact with someone who has untreated BP and/or substance abuse issues then you are going to be emotionally abused. End of story.

You know that I know how hard it is to deal with a mother with unmedicated BP. Honestly, I feel so much better since I went NO CONTACT with my mother. I did all that I could do to try and build a bridge between my mother and me and as far as I can tell so have you regarding your mother.

The reality of dealing with a person who is in a denial is that the supposedly healthy person always thinks that somewhere in their own brain lies a sequence of words that will unlock the vault of denial in which the junkie in their life lives. The supposedly healthy person thinks "If I just try a little harder I'll say the right thing at the right time and (insert name here) will get it and they'll overcome their (insert behavioral pattern and/or disease here)."

How long does it take before a supposedly healthy person looks in the mirror and sees that their forehead is caved in from beating it against a wall during all that time in which they tolerated the emotional abuse of the junkie in their life, during all those years when they chased a phantom set of magical healing words that never existed in the first place?

Sorry to be so blunt. I know this isn't easy on or for you. Big hugs.

Post edited by: invisiblenyc, at: 05/02/2012 07:25 AM

"It is important that we remove toxic people from our lives even it is painful for us to do so. If we do not do so then the long-term negative impact of their presence in our lives is often worse than the short-term pain of cutting them out of our lives." - me

"He or she had these problems before you, while he or she was with you, and left untreated will have the problems after you are long gone." - Circles2007

""virtuous personality traits, such as loyalty, empathy and being non-judgemental towards others, can unintentionally act as as emotional "gate way drugs" to becoming co-dependent." - me

"We all have a little of something in us I think. The question is does it prevent you from functioning and leading a productive stable life...if the answer is yes...then your little something is actually a big something that needs to be addressed." - kalissalea

"It's a process, and some days will be easier than others. I can't be with someone who blames me for their behavior. It's too emotionally draining, and prevents us from having the close relationship I deeply want.' - kalissalea

05/13/2012 05:12 PM  Top
yen
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Thanks nyc. I haven't spoken to her since she was in hospital, although I have sent an email with some more recent photos. At this stage I feel I can keep my distance while still having some point of contact with her.

As you say, my life has been better without contacting her. Having said that, I'm not prepared to close the door completely. I'll just see how it goes.

I appreciate the support here so much! I've been away for a much needed holiday, and school has started back with a vengeance, so I haven't checked in here for a while. Thanks again.


05/13/2012 09:36 PM  Top
marriedtoit
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Focus on school, yen! Check in when you can. I think you have the right attitude. When the time comes to open the door wider or shut it completely, I think you will know.
All of my advice is based on experience and reading. I am not a medical doctor, and have never even played one on TV.

05/16/2012 02:26 PM  Top
invisiblenyc
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yen: I'm glad to hear that you got to take a holiday for yourself.

Only you know which path to follow in dealing with your mother and how to strike a balance if you continue to not fully close the door on her. Best wishes with your studies and with life in general. Be well.

"It is important that we remove toxic people from our lives even it is painful for us to do so. If we do not do so then the long-term negative impact of their presence in our lives is often worse than the short-term pain of cutting them out of our lives." - me

"He or she had these problems before you, while he or she was with you, and left untreated will have the problems after you are long gone." - Circles2007

""virtuous personality traits, such as loyalty, empathy and being non-judgemental towards others, can unintentionally act as as emotional "gate way drugs" to becoming co-dependent." - me

"We all have a little of something in us I think. The question is does it prevent you from functioning and leading a productive stable life...if the answer is yes...then your little something is actually a big something that needs to be addressed." - kalissalea

"It's a process, and some days will be easier than others. I can't be with someone who blames me for their behavior. It's too emotionally draining, and prevents us from having the close relationship I deeply want.' - kalissalea
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