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07/20/2008 11:43 PM
peepers
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I'm new to this group and just need to vent. I signed up as a memeber of the Bipolar support Group a couple months after my husband (probably BP II) left me. I got some good support. Wasn't on for a couple of months and then posted again today. Apparently that group has turned into a support group for people WITH the disorder. Maybe it always was and I just didn't relaize it. Anyway, those people can be mean and down right nasty! Not the ones who are supporting a bipolar person but the bipolar nut cases themselves. I'm sure I'll get in trouble for using the word nutcase but I'm just not feeling warm, fuzzy, and charitable right now.
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07/21/2008 02:06 AM  Top
glory
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Peepers, I am so sorry you feel this way. I am bipolar and if other bipolar's were nasty to you I apologize for them. This site is meant as a support system for everyone, whether they are mentally ill or are involved with the mentally ill. Is there something I can help you with? A question I can try to answer that you need to ask? My feelings are hurt by being called a, "nutcase", but I have heard it all my life. When you married your husband did you consider him a nutcase, or is it only now after the pain he has brought you that you feel a need to insult us? I know that you are aware that non-bipolars are capable of inflicting pain just as easily as us with the disease. My first husband of 20 years, was not bipolar. He had an affair and the pain nearly killed me. Please allow me to be the first to help you talk about and heal the feelings of prejudice against us.
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07/21/2008 04:04 AM  Top
TerriTee
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Hello, peepers.

I am sorry that you are not feeling that you are getting support right now. This group is mainly for support of family members/loved ones of people with bipolar disorder, but both groups have members that have bp or have relationships with them. I belong to and post at both sites.

Many people come here with anger and a need to vent. I can understand that. But as the wife of a wonderful man that has bipolar, I do take offense at name calling. I believe it is one of the reasons that many of those with bipolar have difficulty accepting and getting treatment for it. I'm sure you didn't really mean it, and are just upset right now.

Please feel free to share your story, post and vent, as needed. I hope we can be of help to you,

Terri

I like people until they give me reason not to, she said. Some days they just drop like flies, though, she added. - Brian Andreas
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07/21/2008 08:10 AM  Top
bejeweled
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Um...peepers...I don't even know what to say to that.

The bipolar support group is for people with bp, although I post there regularly and get tons of support. BP in the Family is for people who have a loved one suffering with BP. I get support here too but I have made great friendships in the other room and choose to spend most of my time there.

Nutcase is a realtive term. I happen to consider myself a nutcase. I would suspect that someone who comes into a mental health forum and uses that word to describe members might also be a fry short of a happy meal themselves!

The only two people who responded to your post in the other forum were Norma and Krissy. Both people I consider to be good friends of mine. Just because people don't fluff up your butt and tell you what you want to hear doesn't make it any less true.

Lots of people come in and out of this room like they're caught in a revolving door. They blame everything on BP as if that explains it all and lump BPs into a box. You can't do that. BP is a mood spectrum disorder. And even within that spectrum, BPs can live, laugh and love. How convienient is it to blame BP when someone stops loving you?

Maybe you were a miserable, mean spirited person that lashed out all the time when they got angry and he felt like he had no one to talk to? Maybe you're someone who feels sorry for themselves and likes to blame everyone else for their own problems?

Look at yourself. YOU are the only person you need to worry about changing.

And if this sounds harsh, I am not feeling very warm and charitable either.

Post edited by: bejeweled, at: 07/21/2008 11:09

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07/21/2008 09:33 AM  Top
norma
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http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/bipolar-support-forums/ general-support/126857-do-they-ever-come-back

Here is the link in the Bipolar Group that Peepers is refering to as being answered by "nut cases".

As one of the nutcases, which I am seriously considering having printed on my business cards, I can only say that you are a sad person. I feel so sorry for you.

Guys please read the above link. I think you will see that Peepers is having a bad day. We all do. And as for the heading BP NASTINESS. That is easily forgiven when considering the source of the post. Someone in pain, lashing out at others.

I provided the link for you to come here Peepers, because I knew there were lots of caring people who might be able to help you. Looks like they are trying

Good luck, dear.

signed, Nutcase Norma

Comments made by me are from my own experience and they are my opinion alone, whose intent is only to share that opinion and not to give medical advice nor discourage from seeking medical help. Medicine is best left to the professionals that is what they do.
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Rest in Peace, Gloria...you will be missed.
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07/21/2008 10:49 AM  Top
norma
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By the way, thank you to all of the kind people who defended those of us with bipolar disorder. It is appreciated. Bejeweled, Gloria, Terri...

Maybe one day we can all live in a world where name calling and prejudice is not allowed. Where the content of your character and the way you treat others is how you are judged. Where if you are black, white, a woman or a man, have a mental illness, or are different from other people it is understood and you are not put into a category by it. Maybe...one day, but, not today, and not by you Peepers...

I waited before posting this second reply. It just kept eating at me that no matter how much we try and fit in, and act responsibly, and do what is good and right, there is always, going to be someone who has to do something to try and make us feel small and less than human. I refuse to do that Peepers, I refuse to let you do that to me. And I especially refuse to let you do that to my son, who also has biplolar and is one of the finest people who you could ever meet. We are not nutcases, we are smart, honest, real people who have a disorder that affects the chemistry in our brains.

Comments made by me are from my own experience and they are my opinion alone, whose intent is only to share that opinion and not to give medical advice nor discourage from seeking medical help. Medicine is best left to the professionals that is what they do.
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan
Disclaimer: The information provided in MDJunction is not a replacement for medical diagnosis, treatment, or professional medical advice.

Rest in Peace, Gloria...you will be missed.
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07/21/2008 11:03 AM  Top
Momofboys
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Good for you Norma. I do not consider my husband a nutcase either. He is a loving husband and father that sometimes cannot always keep under control his emotions, thoughts (ones that shouldn't be said out loud) and his brain from racing.
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07/21/2008 11:11 AM  Top
ThisBlows
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I'll be honest with all of you. At times I feel supportive and caring, and others (like when she refuses to take her meds) I want to say screw this crazy B&tch! Its real hard to be supportive when the person your trying to help doesnt try to help herself. So I can understand where peepers is comming from.
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07/21/2008 11:17 AM  Top
bejeweled
bejeweled  
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I can understand frustration with your BP spouse....that to me doesn't justify coming to the room and calling people trying to help "nutcases." We didn't go looking for her, marry her or leave her. She came in here and posted to US - BP or not - for who knows what purpose - obviously not to hear what people actually thought. That is very different then being frustrated with your spouse or loved one.

And trying to help someone who refuses to help themselves is a lot like trying to teach a pig to sing...it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

You have delighted us long enough.
- Jane Austen

Do or do not. There is no try. -YODA

"Someone call the doctor, got a case of love bipolar. Stuck on a roller coster and can't get off this ride."
-Kate Perry Hot & Cold.
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07/21/2008 11:29 AM  Top
ThisBlows
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Ok fair enough, but I can can also see the fustration. The way a person with BP is seeing things, is not nessarly the way the spouse of a person with BP is seeing things. Ive noticed that some people, sometimes, tend to give responses in a way that isnt really helpful. Im not one for name calling myself, or grouping people togeather like that. But peepers is upset, and upset people tend to do that.
Cry HAVOC! and let slip the lemmings of war!

She turned me into a newt!.... I got better

Spes Mea In Deo Est

Previous discussions I participated in:
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i have ptsd
seroquel
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