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03/13/2011 08:48 PM

Outgrowing autism??

Momof5Boys

This may seem like a stupid question, but I'm going to ask anyhow because I am very interested to see what people's opinion is.

I have had several people suggest to me that it may be possible for an autistic person to "outgrow" having autism? Do any of you think this is possible?

Thanks

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03/14/2011 06:33 AM
angieandsara
 
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Hi momof5boys,

I don't know if anybody outgrowns autism. I was always told that my kids will always have autism. Now, I know by experience with my daughter, she has come a loong way. She use to be hyper now she has mellowed out and she doesn't even take meds. Her attention span is alot better. She still has problems with socializing. I believe with early intervention an autistic child can grow up to be a productive individual.


03/16/2011 11:23 AM
JensVoice

I think that comment is made by people who just dont understand autism. Those people dont see that a child with Autism will still advance and mature...and if he/she has help working on the issues they struggle with, those same issues may not be issues in the future. It doesnt mean the Autism goes away. I have this issue with my in laws. they think that my daughter will "outgrow" it. they hadnt seen her for a year and were suprised by her advancement...they dont see the work that she puts in everyday to be where she is now. They dont see that although old issues have been worked through, she still struggles in many areas. I personlly believe that a person with Autism is wired to think differently. that never changes. Its sad that all of their hardwork and effort gets ignored and brushed off as a "phase" by people who dont know any better.

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03/21/2011 09:10 PM
autismwhispers
 
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Our psychologist is of the opinion that the more you expose your child to, especially early on, the more "normal" they are able to become. Our OT commented that our son does very well, better than he would expect an autistic child to do, when he is able to practice a skill. He is still very delayed in some areas. Our psychologist suggested filming other children playing so our child can see appropriate play being modeled in a "safe" environment.

Do you kow Temple Granden? People who have watched her speak, then have watched her speak five years latter have commented that she appears "less autistic" than before. She is constantly working on her social skills and must be 40 or 50. (And she is coming to WSU, about 2 hours from here, in November, I am going, so excited!!!)

We do lots of therapy with our son, we have a ball pit and a mini trampoline. His most dramatic progress has come with a nutritional supplement that we got him on about a year ago. Our psychologist even made the comment, "He's like Pinocchio, he's becoming a real boy." He sees our son every two weeks and is continually impressed with the progress he continues to see every two weeks. Unless people really know what autism is, the fine details, most people don't think he is autistic anymore.

I hope this helps. How severly autistic is your son?

Post edited by: autismwhispers, at: 03/21/2011 09:12 PM


03/22/2011 04:40 PM
Momof5Boys

My son was diagnosed with PDD-NOS about a year and a half ago. He is quite high functioning, he is very much like any other child his age on many levels, but his speech is not at all what it should be for his age. He talks some, and is also learning at a quick rate, like your son. His teacher is constantly impressed by his progress and his ability to learn and comprehend, even if he can't verbalize it.

Cole loves to jump also. We plan to get a trampoline as soon as the weather decides it wants to cooperate and be spring! Wink Cole LOVES water, anything to do with water, ie, mud puddles, toilets, buckets of water, dish water, showers, pools, you name it, he just loves water. We really haven't ever "experiemented" at all with alternative treatments or nutrion based treatments. Do you mind me asking what you did that helped your son so dramatically? How old is your son? Cole will be 4 years old at the end of April.

Thanks for your message!

Momof5Boys


04/03/2011 09:37 PM
autismwhispers
 
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Hello again, to Momof5Boys:

We've been out of town with spring break and off-line. Our Hollen just turned 6 in Feb. Happy birthday to Cole.

Last Feb when Hollen turned 5 he was not potty trained, any water touching his head caused him to scream in pain, he could not eat meat, he had a lot of sound defensiveness (his head was hyper-sensitive), he had limited eye contact and peer interaction and he would have raging fits that would last 30 to 40 mins. Last March we got Hollen taking a nutritional supplement and in 6 weeks our lives changed overnight. He started using the toilet on his own, we wash his hair with mild discomfort now, he eats meat, tollerates more noise and sound, initiates peer interaction, increased eye contact and the raging fits are gone, period!!!

Last year at Hollen's IEP his speech and language was in the 2nd percentile (up from the first at 3 years old) and this year he is in the low teens!!! Unbelieveable!!! This is why I am autismwhispers, because the autism no longer dominates my sons personality, or his life.

It sounds like Cole also has some sensory integration dysfunction, that is why Hollen really likes his ball pit and trampoline, and why his head was so sensitive.

I hope this helps,

autismwhispers


04/04/2011 07:38 PM
Momof5Boys

Thank you for your response. Would you mind sharing with me what nutritional supplement that your son started taking that helped him so dramatically? I am very interested in learning more about this from you. How did you hear about it?

I hope I don't sound stupid, but what is "sensory integration dysfunction"?


04/04/2011 10:51 PM
autismwhispers
 
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No stupid questions about autism unless you have studied this for years and are a specialist, well, even then..... THIS IS MY VERY NON-TECHNICAL, INTERPRETATION OF WHAT I HAVE READ AND STILL REMEMBER! I AM JUST A MOM, NO EXPERT. IF I AM WRONG, PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR CORRECT MY POST. OK, got that out of the way. I apologize in advance for the length of this post.

The autistic brain is "wired" differently than the neurotypical brain. Some parts of the brain have many connections, while others have very few, or none. There "should" be more of a balance of connections but often-times there are "too many" or "too few." A very simplified explanation, yet SID is a good example of over-wired and under-wired. Sensory integration dysfunction (SID) is a neurological complication associated with the central nervous system (CNS). There are different degrees of dysfunction, part of why autistic children are considered "on the spectrum" because there are all levels of severity, from mild to severe. SID is one of the many symptoms of the autism and the PDD NOS diagnoses. For the most part, a neurotypical brain "knows" where it's body parts are; but with SID the brain does NOT "know" where the body parts are, so we go body bumping into people and walls in order to get some bio-feedback that says, "I'm the belly, here I am, can you feel me now?" We play in water because when our fingers are cool (none of us should be able to "feel" wet, but we can feel the temp change)we know where our fingers are. IMO, (see that IMO?) this is why potty training can be soooooooo difficult because when we wet or mess our pants, our wet and messy body parts get to say, "I am the bum, here I am, can you feel me now?" And it feels good to feel our body parts, regardless of the "why." Is there really any difference between getting our fingers wet in a mud puddle and getting our legs and bum wet when we wet our pants? Parts are wet, we can feel them; it's all kinda the same, I think.

Another "symptom" of SID is hyper-sensitivity. Our little Hollen's body is primarily sensory-seeking, but his toes and fingers and head are sensory-defensive. Before we got him some help, we could not touch his toes, and even now, we have to trim his toenails while he is sleeping, and only one or two toes per night. If he is not in deep sleep it stil does not work. He chews his fingernails so we don't ever even try to clip those, always too short. His ears are hyper-sensitive and once they get "hurt" he usually covers his ears for at least 20 mins, even now. At gym just last month some guys were testing the scoreboard buzzer, just one BUZZ, and for about 20 mins thereafter, Hollen covered his ears. He can NOT tollerate a basketball game for very long with all of the squeaking shoes, the reffs and their whistles and the timer-score board buzzer. We can both cover his ears and he is ok for a bit, but then we have to go. Gyms are really bad for loud echo-y sounds that we still find challenging.

I hope this helps explane SID. Sensory seeking in the vestibular system, (where your body is in space and movement, or something) children often love jumping, flying through the air, being "unsafe" and taking risks because the falling is fun, usually enjoy ball pits and stuff. Other children are sensory defensive in this area and will not even jump on the couch, very unsure of movements.

There are several sensory systems, including visual, hearing, touch, the vetibular and the prioreceptive (?) and maybe some others. With the vestib and priorec, one is where our parts are and one deals with movement through space, I THINK.

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05/19/2011 01:33 PM
duzzani
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I've come a long way in terms of social development. But the idea that I'll outgrow autism is absurd. My brain is wired differently, and that's the bottom line. I'd LOVE my autism to be a non-issue. But it's not going away.

05/06/2012 07:11 AM
tayla4545
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it is possible to outgrow it because i am 13 and i am no longer autistic Smile
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