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07/22/2008 10:11
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Hi,

I keep trying to find "support" for high functioning ASD - but it always leads me to Aspergers which my son definitely does not have. He is very, very outgoing. Our only problem is impulse control (very bad when he is tired) and bad listening skills (same situation when tired). He has a tendency to lash out at my husband, but I think that stems from frustration that he works a lot.

He has been in a ABA preschool program & will start regulare Kindergarden in Sept.

Anyone out there with a kid that most people think is "hard to handle"?

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07/22/2008 10:36
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Hi I am shell mum of 6 four with aytism i also have AS

you have just discribed my aspie

The line between HFA and aspergers is very fine,I bieleved my son should have dx of HFA because t he could speak he was selective mute they gave AS buthe is HFA I was going to query itbut thetreatments andservices are the same for bothso westuck to the As

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07/22/2008 13:31
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My son sounds similar to yours. He's very verbal, social and intelligent but doesn't really understand how to appropriately interact with people. Most people don't ever suspect that he's autistic since he doesn't fit the stereotype of a non-verbal kid who is living in his own little world. David also attended a developmental preschool and just completed kindergarten in a mainstream classroom. His biggest issue is transitions from one activity to another. He also has some sensory and speech issues.

One of the biggest challenges with David is learning to distinguish between the times that he's having a real issue and when he's just being a stubborn six-year old boy. He's also very much aware that he's different from other kids. On the good side, he is so verbal that he's sometimes able to tell us what's bothering him. A few months ago, he said to my husband, "Daddy, sometimes my feet don't talk to me. So I dance." We've always known that he has some body awareness issues, but it was encouraging to hear him be able to verbalize it.

Welcome to the forum!

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07/22/2008 13:41
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Hi Heather,

Thanks for replying. Yes, your son sounds very similar. Zac's speech has improved immensely & so have his sensory issues. He has been in the "Why" stage for a while now which makes me have to think alot more to provide answers to his questions. As a toddler, he used to be a runner. At the park or beach he would just want to run but that has stopped. Recently, we went out on my husband's boat & Zac was not following the rules which resulted in a shorter ocean trip. I think the sounds, sights, and motion from the ocean were a bit overwhelming for him.

I am super patient with my son - but sometimes it can get to me. How about you?

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07/22/2008 14:07
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Yes, I know what you mean. It's hard to be so patient all the time, with any kids, typical or autistic. (I have three - the other two are neuro-typical.) I think that part of it is that it's so hard to anticipate what's going to bother them. And sometimes David just seems so typical, and then he does something that completely catches me off-guard.

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07/22/2008 14:47
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Exactly. I have to provide Zac with a positive alternative to get him to transition to something else lots ot times. We still have some issues with minor pottie accidents because he doesn't want to stop playing. The funny thing is when we are out in public he loves to use public bathrooms! Everyone thinks that is so funny because most kids hate using other bathrooms.

Thank god for good red wine, yoga, working out, and deep breaths - ofcourse not all at the same time.

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07/22/2008 15:55
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David does well with positive alternative as well, and he also responds well to countdowns, charts, and things like that. His kindergarten teacher used a chart of his daily activities, posted right next to his "special" hook for his backpack, so he could see what the sequence would be for the day. Knowing what was coming ahead seemed to make all the difference in the world.

That is funny about the public toilets. Autistic kids tend to want everything the same, all the time - you would think that would hold true for toilets as well!

I'm right there with you on the red wine and exercise! Although tonight I'm leaning toward a chardonnay.


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07/23/2008 09:40
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That's the weird thing about Zac - not all things need to be the same. Geez - you should see his room! We had one "expert" (not an MD or PhD)tell us he had dyspraxia. He is incredibly independent & gets upset if not allowed to do certain things - he will get very angry unless things are explained to him clearly (why or why we don't do things). This morning while getting ready I took some towels out to the garage. My husband was taking the longest shower known to man. I am drying my hair & I hear a noise thinking it's our pantry door. Then I realize it is our screen door. Zac got the laundry basket and went to get laundry. He is trying to be helpful, but he gave me a heart attack. We live in a safe neighborhood - but kids are always getting snatched. A 5 year old can't go out on their own - which ofcourse he then questioned this for the next 20 mintues!
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07/23/2008 10:51
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David is the same way, and sometimes it's hard to anticipate what things need to be the same and what things need to be different. He's always been able to handle the "macro" changes better than the "micro" ones. We can have school one day, go to the beach the next day, and go visit grandma the next day, and he's fine with all that. But, he can't get in the car to go do any of it without a five-minute countdown.

I know it must drive you nuts - but it's great that Zac can ask so many "why" questions. David doesn't quite seem to get that yet. He's getting better at putting cause and effect together, but when we introduce the word "why" it confuses him.


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07/23/2008 11:12
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That's why Zac seems really typical most times. His most challenging things are controlling his emotions and not using his hands. This has improved dramatically - but he stills has his moments. We have our ups and downs. Most of the other kids I have met from his ABA seem to many more issues to contend with so I can't compare him to them. I know you had mentioned that your son notices that he is "different" than the other kids. Zac has never noticed this. He always said he liked the Boys & Girls Club better because his friends are nicer there meaning that they don't have the same behaviorial issues as the kids in ABA (hence the reason they are in ABA). Also, Zac rarely wants to play alone except on the computer. His dad works a lot & I am the main parent. He gets very upset if I don't play with him.
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