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06/20/2007 10:31
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Anyone run into a whole bunch of crap from family? saying there's nothing wrong with them they're only 2! I have twin girls.. both evaluated & conclusion was PDD-NOS. made an appt.( but can't get in til march '08) w/ develop. specialist.. for proper diag. Does it change or does early intervention usually get it right? I'm starting to wonder what I've done to screw them up so bad already since everyone seems to think it's just me & I should have thrown them in daycare. two pedi's also reccomended that I call early intervention for the girls..so maybe they could see what I see daily?
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06/20/2007 15:54
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I know how you feel when My son first got diagnosed with PDD and ADHD till this day I get from people I just dont see where is is autistic and people dont get there is high fuctioning autitic children as well and it took lots of speech thearpy and Occupational thearepy to get him where he is today but he still has issues and that will never go away sometimes you just have to ignore family and friends and just do what is best for your kids and seeking further help is always a good option and as they age they will probably be retested a few more times over the years... good luck to you and keep us posted

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06/20/2007 18:16
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Thanks for the post.. I feel like I'm the only one against the world.. almost like I'm screwed up. I keep having every little thing pointed out to me..like look she can imitate expressions from that movie & almost recites the whole scrpt.. if there was something wrong with her she couldn't do that.. or "see, I just told her no and she looked at me and smiled.. she knows whats up" she's not stupid or a ree-ree! How do explain that pdd-nos/autistic spectrum doesn't mean ree-ree, short bus,totally out of it. I'm catching major hell from family for even making follow-up calls & appts. they are both delayed in speech and that's all family is accepting, the tantrums, no pain, screaming, thrashing, no eye contact social crap is all due to me not puttingnthem in daycare.. help!,The dr.'s & early interv. people have told me they're ahead of the game because of the extra attention & teaching I've done. That if any mother could have the choice of staying at home with one on one or going to work they would choose their child. And that's what's wrong with kids today.. yet all I hear from family is your blowing it. I love these girls and hope that they won't have to take the short bus..am I doing wrong by "let the girls live" only to find out later that there's issues? I'm so new to all of this including being a parent with no help let alone all of the internet searching.. boy oh boy do I need someone out here that knows, has been here and can help or just listen to me bitch! almost overwelmed.. 2 yr olds are a handful anyway! Thanks again for the reply.. I need all the advice and ears I can get.

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06/21/2007 14:25
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Alot of things autistic kids can do that make you think things are alright but they have other things that are questionable take my son for an instance he cant tie his own shoes or cut his own meat but the kid can finish a whole video game in 2 hrs time games that even adults have difficulty with and llike your girls he can remember lines from moves and copy what they do but simple things he doenst compreheand you have to keep telling yourself even though its hard cause others are putting you down that you are a good mom and you are doing everthying in there best intrest it never hurts to follow up on things what will hurt more in the end is if you dont and then later on down the road find out something is truly wrong and could have been helped in the past.. I have learned to just listen to what others have to say and to just throw out the negatives and keep moving foward and doing the best i cna for my son and with you having 2 like this must be much harder. I am a stay at home mom and I think if I didnt stay home things would be much worse with him he has 2 sisters and its hard at times cause they dont get why there brother acts the way he does at time and all u can do is take a deep breath and take 1 day at a time its not all peaches and creams but all you cna do is your best and no one should expect more out of you

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09/11/2007 11:42
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You could make a fact sheet to share with family and friends. Fact sheets can also come in handy with strangers from time to time.

I have had family members who say things like that to me and I just smile, thank them for their opinion and go on as best I can. As long as they don't have a major influence on your children then living in ignorance is not going to hurt anything. It seems like a lot of what they're saying comes from not understanding the diagnosis.

Please pardon me for saying this but having a diagnosis is not an excuse for horrible behavior. I'm not saying that you're using it as one, but just that it's possible to raise your children to overcome a lot of their impulsive tendencies even though they have troubles with them.

If sensory issues tend to set your children off you can make the impact of sensory problems less in many ways. If you are having trouble getting through to your girls because of their language delays you can use physical ways of getting your message across.


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11/01/2007 20:01
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I completely understand where you are coming from. I feel for you. I wish I could tell you exactly how to handle it. I think however, that the fact sheet is a good idea if your family is the type that will receive it well. What I mean by that is that my inlaws HATE to be corrected so that didn't go over well when I tried it. So what I did was "plant seeds" in which I could get my point across but they could be the hero. For example, I would say, "Did you notice that when you asked him to look at you in the eyes when you were talking to him (making eye contact) that he actually understood what you were saying?!" or "Didn't you say that he seems to be sensitive to high pitched sounds? I'm so glad you figured that out because...". And eventually, they started asking, "yeah, why do you think he needs to be told to look you in the eyes or doesn't like high pitched sounds?".

Another key element for us was to make certain that my husband and I were on the same page. If you're not on the same page as far as you both agree that something isn't right and you both agree on the issues at hand...then who cares at this point what the family says...get your husband on your side. If it's his family that is causing the issues, then let him fight that battle. Typically, in most families, mother in laws and daughter in laws don't always mesh well on the important issues. He's supposed to be the man of the house so let him feel important by rallying support for you guys.

And by the way, YOU didn't do anything wrong...I mean, unless you threw them out a window, or beat them with a baseball bat etc....you didn't do anything wrong. This is something that has happened to them that you can get through. Yes, early intervention is fantastic. From my experience, my best therapy that we tried was ABA by far. Speech has done virtually nothing (and I am not recommending to go without it by the way, Im just thinking we're not getting great service). OT has been pretty good especially on the fine motor stuff. My kids didn't need PT. And other things we have done that are not typically covered by most insurances is follow a guideline of the DAN! protocol (www.austism.com is a great resource by the Autism Research Institute). Although we couldn't actually afford to do the DAN! protocol because of our finances, we did implement the ideas using natural supplementation and special diet. For more info on it, please please see my article from Associated Content. There is a link on my profile on here. It gives some basic info. You may find these helpful..its worth looking into.

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11/02/2007 14:37
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you havent already call ECI earily childhood develp?as far as family saying things to you mine did the same saying we wra just spoiling him as we are older parents and he is the only child at home yes we got it but we didnt keep taking it.pointing fingers is a nonsupportave thing to do it is flat out saying i dont care what is happeneing to you because you ask for it.i see you falling but wouldnt lend a hand to help you up because you dont do things the way i think they should be done.So, move on call eci get things started and know you have to put these people behind you as i know now you need them most.but it is now the girls need you most.i know and you know life has changed but please understand behind your two girls dis are wonderful little girls find the child behind the illness.you just have to push aside others now if they are not supportive toward you and yes the therapist and dr's will come togeather.eci will come into your home and help the girls learn to play.my boy is 7 now. eci came into my home for about two years.as my boy has had alot of help he is very silly sometimes.still in diapers and non verb.he knows he is loved and feels safe at home.the finger pointing family members HAVE NEVER BEEN ALONE WITH MY SON.NOT EVEN MY OWN MOTHER.i could tell they wanted to expermant with him and make him mind a nice way of saying do what i say.because i said so another form of finger pointing toward my parenting skills and they had not one min of exper with any dis.

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11/02/2007 16:20
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I also agree with Ahsan, fingerpointing is not really helpful at all. Chin up and do the best you can starting now. I also agree with Ahsan about ECI (I assume that stands for Early Childhood Intervention? Ours is called CDS or Child Development Services). We have a fantastic case worker who has been most supportive for getting us the care that my children deserved. I highly recommend that service. For most states, I think it's based on income so if money is a problem, they can usually help. In our state, you can use CDS no matter what the income as long as your children are birth-5years old. They can also provide you with the "nuts & bolts" info about autism and PDD NOS so you can educate your family when they are ready to receive it. If your family spends a lot of time with your children, then it's important to educate them....personally, I think that if your family is not very involved (like you see them a few times a year) then it's not quite as important for them to see things your way even though it's helpful to have them understand what is really going on. Bad parenting does not cause autism.

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11/02/2007 17:01
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OK THIS IS TO TWO PEOPLE AT ONE TIME.TO FAWN AND JETACON. yes ECI stands for earily childhood intervention.we were never ask for money.i thought it was a free service?wow!you know jetaconn i am really glad she has this place now as i just by chance found this place.As Fawn i dont know about jetacon i was so alone.so worried I didnt have anyone that told me with time things would get better.as my son got older because some of the things are for the fact that he is a child and trying to feel his way around too.at one time i went into karchi,pakistan for family help i am from the states but my husband is from pakistan i really did need someone i was sinking as a person myself.but as things go the sister and i didnt get along (alright dont point a finger it wasnt that we could not put things aside it was a cul clash i guess)i am sorry and i wish there were some family member that will put aside pointing and spend time with you and ECI at the drs office if they dont believe now when things get really hard for you and your children this will be no time to say i am sorry.try to pull at least two into your world you'll really need them later.as of yet because of family and friends i have not been able to cry.religion is one reason my family has turned on me.the other is they are hillbillyshow funny!my sons name is Ahsan not mine he was named by his now late granddad in pk name meaning (beautiful)

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11/03/2007 02:39
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Reactions by families across disabilities

1. Adjustment - there will almost always be a process of adjustment to meet the needs of a special child. For the parents, this may mean the postponement of certain career/ educational plans to devote time to the particularly dependent child.

2. Changing Values - unimagined strengths and resources among family members may be drawn out by the circumstances; the experience may cause family members to re-examine their values (especially the materialistic ones). For children and adults, it can certainly be valuable lesson in 'celebrating differences rather than fearing it', as the family learns to love the special child unconditionally.

3. A sense of loss - there may be a generalised sense of loss as the family realises that the child's future life will be filled with uncertainty and certain difficulty. Parents might also experience a sense of aloneness and isolation if faced with insensitivity and prejudice in society. Sometimes, friends or relatives may insist that there is nothing wrong with the child and that all problems are due to the parents' methods of child-rearing and dealing with difficult behaviour. In such cases, parents are advised to "keep cool, calm and dignified, provide information but refuse to be drawn into arguments and, if there is no other way of changing attitudes, to see as little as possible of those who are unsympathetic." - Lorna Wing, "The Autistic Spectrum - A Guide for Parents and Professionals".

4. Loss of independence - all parents expect their children to gain independence after childhood and adolescence. However, it must be acknowledged that some children with a disability may always remain dependent even into adulthood. (Hence, the aim is to help the child achieve as much independence as possible.)

5. Comparitive neglect of other family relationships - in the process of meeting the special child's needs, there is always the danger of neglecting one own needs and relationships. It is always important to note that the child is a part of the family, not the centre of it. There must be a balance of roles, among other things. Raising a child should not become a choice between him/ her and the family. Should the family break down as a result, everyone suffers, especially the special child. (This is discussed in depth later.)

6. Lack of respite - it is sometimes difficult for parents to find an external care-giver who can understand and cope with their special child's complex needs. This can limit their time alone and time together severely, leading to exhaustion. In "The Autistic Spectrum - A Guide for Parents and Professionals", Lorna Wing offers this suggestion: "The local Autistic Society may have a scheme for baby-sitting. If not, then the idea can be suggested and explored by interested members. Such schemes are always the result of individual initiatives." In addition, supportive and loving relatives can be a source of invaluable child-care help.

Some reactions specific to Autism

1. Confusion and anxiety over the complexity of autism - ASD is a complex and perplexing condition which can make parents fearful and frustrated. Meeting other parents through local autistic societies can be an excellent source of emotional and practical support.

2. Misunderstanding/ Lack of acceptance of disability from others - this is largely due to 'normal' appearance of the child with ASD, which is why it is often called an 'invisible disability'. Blame may be placed on the parents when the child is seemingly intentionally naughty or difficult. Parents who are able to overcome the feeling of guilt, telling themselves, "It's their problem/ ignorance, not ours" will find tremendous release from this source of stress.

3. Difficulties about the genetic link from other family members - discussions about the genetic traits in the family can be interesting - if held in the spirit of intellectual enquiry. It must be remembered that it is pointless to waste time and energy in blaming either side of the family for the child's problems. The point is to help the child to find a way of life, in which s/he can be as happy and content as possible. However, parents might want to seek genetic counselling to consider the implications of having future children.

4. Loss of flexibility - Children with ASD often need structure and consistency to help them make sense of the confusing world. Hence, the setting of routines, schedules and deadlines within the home will help make the environment more predictable and managable for the child. For example, daily during mealtimes, the child with ASD may need to follow an rigid and identical routine before s/he is willing to eat. Siblings of the child need to understand that the child is not simply being difficult or naughty. Somehow, the family must accomodate the child's ritualistic behaviour, but not allow it to dominate family life.

by families across disabilities

1. Adjustment - there will almost always be a process of adjustment to meet the needs of a special child. For the parents, this may mean the postponement of certain career/ educational plans to devote time to the particularly dependent child.

2. Changing Values - unimagined strengths and resources among family members may be drawn out by the circumstances; the experience may cause family members to re-examine their values (especially the materialistic ones). For children and adults, it can certainly be valuable lesson in 'celebrating differences rather than fearing it', as the family learns to love the special child unconditionally.

3. A sense of loss - there may be a generalised sense of loss as the family realises that the child's future life will be filled with uncertainty and certain difficulty. Parents might also experience a sense of aloneness and isolation if faced with insensitivity and prejudice in society. Sometimes, friends or relatives may insist that there is nothing wrong with the child and that all problems are due to the parents' methods of child-rearing and dealing with difficult behaviour. In such cases, parents are advised to "keep cool, calm and dignified, provide information but refuse to be drawn into arguments and, if there is no other way of changing attitudes, to see as little as possible of those who are unsympathetic." - Lorna Wing, "The Autistic Spectrum - A Guide for Parents and Professionals".

4. Loss of independence - all parents expect their children to gain independence after childhood and adolescence. However, it must be acknowledged that some children with a disability may always remain dependent even into adulthood. (Hence, the aim is to help the child achieve as much independence as possible.)

5. Comparitive neglect of other family relationships - in the process of meeting the special child's needs, there is always the danger of neglecting one own needs and relationships. It is always important to note that the child is a part of the family, not the centre of it. There must be a balance of roles, among other things. Raising a child should not become a choice between him/ her and the family. Should the family break down as a result, everyone suffers, especially the special child. (This is discussed in depth later.)

6. Lack of respite - it is sometimes difficult for parents to find an external care-giver who can understand and cope with their special child's complex needs. This can limit their time alone and time together severely, leading to exhaustion. In "The Autistic Spectrum - A Guide for Parents and Professionals", Lorna Wing offers this suggestion: "The local Autistic Society may have a scheme for baby-sitting. If not, then the idea can be suggested and explored by interested members. Such schemes are always the result of individual initiatives." In addition, supportive and loving relatives can be a source of invaluable child-care help.

Some reactions specific to Autism

1. Confusion and anxiety over the complexity of autism - ASD is a complex and perplexing condition which can make parents fearful and frustrated. Meeting other parents through local autistic societies can be an excellent source of emotional and practical support.

2. Misunderstanding/ Lack of acceptance of disability from others - this is largely due to 'normal' appearance of the child with ASD, which is why it is often called an 'invisible disability'. Blame may be placed on the parents when the child is seemingly intentionally naughty or difficult. Parents who are able to overcome the feeling of guilt, telling themselves, "It's their problem/ ignorance, not ours" will find tremendous release from this source of stress.

3. Difficulties about the genetic link from other family members - discussions about the genetic traits in the family can be interesting - if held in the spirit of intellectual enquiry. It must be remembered that it is pointless to waste time and energy in blaming either side of the family for the child's problems. The point is to help the child to find a way of life, in which s/he can be as happy and content as possible. However, parents might want to seek genetic counselling to consider the implications of having future children.

4. Loss of flexibility - Children with ASD often need structure and consistency to help them make sense of the confusing world. Hence, the setting of routines, schedules and deadlines within the home will help make the environment more predictable and managable for the child. For example, daily during mealtimes, the child with ASD may need to follow an rigid and identical routine before s/he is willing to eat. Siblings of the child need to understand that the child is not simply being difficult or naughty. Somehow, the family must accomodate the child's ritualistic behaviour, but not allow it to dominate family life.

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