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05/25/2007 05:10 AM
SadMom
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A mom from the (offline) support group I joined a couple of months ago told me that it's very likely that the MMR vaccine causes autism.

Since then, I haven't stopped blaming myself for not reasearching this at the time.

Was I the one that got my baby sick? Sad

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05/26/2007 11:48 PM  Top
callme2crazy
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Studies have proved no link between the vaccine and autism. If you search google you will find a lot of current information about this topic.
;) Dee

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05/29/2007 04:35 AM  Top
Sica
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Callme2crazy is right, SadMom, the connection between the MMR vaccine and autism is a common misconception. It's still a controversy, though. Here's an article that supports the theory that the vaccine can cause or favour autism: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/09/14/ mmr_and_autism_the_link_really_has_been_established.htm

And here is another article that states the exact contrary: http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/ 280703mmr.html

Also, this is the official position of the NIP (National Immunization Program): http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/autism/autism- mmr.htm

Just don't blame yourself for wanting the best for your child. Immunizing your child is the best thing you can do, despite all ignorant or paranoid voices.


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08/03/2007 10:45 PM  Top
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My baby was diagnosed ASD just recently. From the internet information, and other professional opinions, it seems like there may be a connection between MMR vaccine, and some autism. I don't think they can verify that for all. It seems like there have been a lot of parents who have neurotypical children who change after receiving their MMR. I am right there with you wondering if I did something that would cause my child to have this condition. I really hope that with the research that is being done an answer is found soon! We just have to re-assure ourselves that the vaccine was recommended by our doctor, and that we really aren't to blame!! I didn't realize I needed to go home and research every medicine, vaccine, etc that was recommended for my children! We have our 15 month check up next week, and I definitely will NOT do another vaccine until I know everything about it, and if any "SAFER" version is available to order in from somewhere else in the country! Keep your chin up and try to stay strong!

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10/01/2007 10:34 AM  Top
herding123
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New info. that I thought you would be interested in...but first, don't blame yourself.

Theory 1....MMR causes autism.

Theory 2....Its actually the mercury in the MMR, not the MMR itself.

Theory 3....Its the mercury put into the blood stream in babies pre-dispositioned to have (-) affects of metals.

For the fetus, infant, and child, the primary effect is impaired neurological development. Impacts on cognitive thinking, memory, attention, language, fine motor, and visual spatial skills have been seen. It can also cause peripheral vision impairments, disturbances in sensations, lack of coordination, impairments in speech, hearing, walking, and muscle weakness. the average weight of a newborn, at 7 pounds, could take in no more than .3 mcgs. of mercury. Infants were receiving 12.5 mcgs. within hours of birth. They continued to accumulate more mercury exposure in the following months.

The way of exposure was by injection and not ingestion.

Just found this out....

They still made vaccines "depleted" but not free of thimerosal. In 2004, when the CDC added the flu shot to the baby immunization schedule, thimerosal crept all the way back in vaccines.

Most autism cases are seen after babies have received the bulk of their childhood vaccines

A 2004 study at Columbia University, led by Dr. Mady Hornig, found the casualty between vaccines and autism when researchers showed that thimerosal caused "autistic behavior" in mice. The results obtained in the lab are corroborated by data in the real world

So then, why can autism occur in twins??

The autism link between fraternal twins is approx. 10%. However, fraternal twins share about 50% of the same DNA and gut fighting agents. According to the statistics i stated earlier, babies have been recieving far beyond what they should be getting so tolerance is looked at.

Hugs,

Kris


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10/01/2007 03:33 PM  Top
4tesa
 
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NO!!!!

ur not a doctor it is not ur responsibility to research

its ur doctors responsibility to tell u the risks

blame him/her


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10/01/2007 06:11 PM  Top
herding123
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sadmom, I want to say 4tesa is right that you should not have to be the one to research it. I am because I know that I have to if I really want any answers...sad, but true it seems like more and more these days.

When I found those studies that I listed above I was amazed and my doctor said he didn't know any of those things and was pretty shocked. However, I'm glad to see that there are tests being done by at least some people. The world is a lot different now adays. Maybe its a whole bunch of everything...Did you think those studies and statistics were interesting too?

Kris

PS: I hope since your screen name is sadmom, I hope you AREN"T sad all the time. Hugs your way.


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10/28/2007 01:29 PM  Top
jetaconn
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There is so much confusion about MMR and Autism links. If you take the time to browse the CDC and FDA's statements about this topic, what you will learn may surprise you. It will point out that there are certainly notable side effects and lack of research from thimerosal being used as a preservative in vaccines. The government agencies are indeed being willfully ignorant about the harmful side effects. I am not a doctor or scientist so I can't prove a connection. But I am the mom of 2 on the spectrum who had immediate reactions to vaccines (which I was told were completely normal by the doctor and not to worry about it). One had a seizure within five minutes of being administered the DTaP vaccine. The other had a milder reaction which was still serious but not on the same lines as a seizure.

If you choose to continue to vaccinated, you can just request the thimerosal free versions which are available in almost all vaccines now except for the influenza vaccine. It is up to you if you decide to continue vaccinating or not. We have chosen not to. This decision was not based on third or fourth hand "associated press" type websites but from pharmaceutical companies themselves along with the FDA's statements, and the CDC's responses to our questions.

There is no sense in blaming yourself for your child's autism. It is very easy to take that road, but you were making the best decision for your child with what information was given to you at the time. You were doing what you thought was right.

The MMR vaccine has a reputation for being the Autism vaccine. Although I know that there are problems with that vaccine. I do not think that thimerosal is the BIG problem with vaccines. I was forced to learn more about vaccines than I wanted to when it was time for my daughters booster shots. I researched vaccines from "the horses mouth" at great length for months prior to her appointment. I found that the other preservatives: formaldehyde, aluminum- bicarbonate (a neurotoxin), tin, antifreeze, amonia, disinfectants (I forget the scitentific name), yeast, and other ingredients have side effects that are just as serious as thimerosal. The FDA and the CDC admits that the side effects are dangerous. They described to me that among the very common side effects that they are aware of (in my opinion, willing to admit) are: Seizures, death, food allergies, shock, brain damage, mental retardation, altered genetic and less serious side effects like nausea, fever, vomiting, diarrhea etc.

The best thing you can really do is to arm yourself with information and decide what is best for your child based on what you know. I'm not trying to impose my non-vaccinating belief system on anyone else. I just made this decision based on the fact that both of my children have experienced serious side effects and have ASD's.

Please, do not blame yourself though for your child having ASD. There is a lot that can be done to help your child. Know that God is in control. He created your baby and made him just the way he was intended to be and He that began a good work in you (him), He will complete it... You child can get better!

www.associatedcontent.com/article/412250/ controversy_healing_autism.html

Blessings~


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10/29/2007 07:43 PM  Top
teribarker
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I understand that there are articles out there and studies said to have proven that MMR vaccines have nothing to do with Autism, however I don't fully agree that there is no link..the reason I do is because my son Chance did not have a developmental delay until he started getting his MMR vaccines. He received the first two injections of the MMR series twice because we moved being military before the end of the series could be completed. When we got overseas..he was given the first two injections again..totaling 3 times now for the first two each, and then finally completed the series. Then he started having the developmental delays. I didn't realize there could be a link until his general practioner looked at his shot record and asked me why so many times for that series..I told him, and he said..yanno..there could be your answer for his Autism.

So my jury is still out on this one. I will glady go to any article or whatever I can find on this issue to do further research. But because of my son I can't agree that there is no link like these studies are said to be proving.

this is just me though...

thanks for letting me say this =)

mad-luv,

TC~

xoxo

nice to meet you Wink


10/29/2007 07:56 PM  Top
Ahsan
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I cant believe someone is here!I only surf later in the day and it is almost time for me to be going soo.you know i noticed my son being too quite from the very start so as far as shots go it's not that way with me.I dont know.but as for being overseas,what country? and the shots were given at a hospitel setting,right? we were in Karchi,Pakistan when my boy was 4 now he's 7 and they wanted to come into our home and give shots I disagreed.and passed on the shots.how were they given to your child overseas?

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