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07/18/2012 12:11 PM
krissy20k
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Ever since I woke up this morning I have been fighting my anxiety. I feel like I am on the verge of a panic attack. I am so anxious right now. Actually this is how I have been for the past month and a half.

I am doing some breathing exercises and it seems to help, but not for long. I can't even eat today. I hardly slept, and I am drained. Can someone share some tips on what you do when you are in anxious mode! I am really trying hard not to take Xanax. That stuff only works for "in the moment" for me. After it wears off my anxiety comes back triple fold!

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07/18/2012 12:24 PM  Top
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I'm sorry to hear you are struggling today Krissy.

That's basically it for me the breathing exercises and then anything you can do where you get really absorbed in it and distract yourself from the anxiety usually helps.

Dx POTS, anemia, and anxiety.

07/18/2012 12:30 PM  Top
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Another doomsday for me. I am so anxious and sick to my stomach I can't even eat. I ate a half of a half of bagel w/ cream cheese & a cup of milk. I force myself to eat a little b/c I don't want just pills in my gut. Feel like I am going to die. Crying b/c I felt so good yesterday & now I'm down in bed again. Don't even have the strength to sit up at computer. Am posting via cell phone. I am too sick to remember who is feeling bad today on here. I will pray for us all anyway.

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07/18/2012 01:26 PM  Top
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Awww Kelti - I can't eat today either, but at the same time I am starving! This feeling sucks! Some moments I feel good, and then the next moment I feel anxious again. The only thing that is helping me today is mindful breathing!

Damsel - I am trying so hard to find something to occupy my mind. I am at work, but it is pretty slow for me, so my mind has all day to wonder off to it's irrational fears. I can't wait to go home, and knit. I sound like a big nerd, but for some reason knitting seems to clam me. It is such a mindless task, I am not even great at it. I just know it works for me. I breathe better and for some reason my mind does not wonder off into thoughts that make me anxious!

This website seems to help me a lot though. So glad I found it! I have not went into a full blown panic today at all. So grateful for that! The anxious feeling is no fun though.


07/18/2012 02:08 PM  Top
LostInCyberspace12
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krissy20k said>>> Ever since I woke up this morning I have been fighting my anxiety. I feel like I am on the verge of a panic attack. I am so anxious right now. Actually this is how I have been for the past month and a half. I am doing some breathing exercises and it seems to help, but not for long. I can't even eat today. I hardly slept, and I am drained. Can someone share some tips on what you do when you are in anxious mode! I am really trying hard not to take Xanax. That stuff only works for "in the moment" for me. After it wears off my anxiety comes back triple fold!

Therein lies the problem with the really short half-life benzos like xanax. This is why PRN dosing almost never works unless you have panic disorder with very infrequent panic attacks and no anticipatory anxiety or panic comorbid with severe GAD which I believe most people have.

You take a drug like xanax and you get this incredible surge of anxiety reduction. It makes you feel how you want to feel but this feeling is one that most people can't achieve naturally. This almost instant relief causes positive reinforcement in the brain to do again what you did before to rid yourself of the horrid mental anguish you feel.

Benzos are true anti-anxiety meds and most people have taken them but most people have not taken them long-term on a daily basis.

If you have ever gone to the dentist or into a hospital for some inpatient/outpatient procedure, you have probably been given just one benzo to calm you down. Most ppl have been given valium, versed, or ativan like this. These drugs work fantastic in situations such as these and have a remarkable safety profile.

But when you try to use them long-term on a daily basis to manage things like severe panic disorder or GAD, you may or may not run into problems like tolerance but you will almost surely become 100% medically dependent or addicted. There is no getting around this unless you take benzos infrequently and the doses are spread adequately far enough apart.

The problem with PRN is you avoid the addiction aspect but you experience this great relief followed by a this feeling that your anxiety is a little worse than it was before you took the drug after the effect wears off. Ultimately what happens even as careful as you might try to be is that the PRN doses become spaced too close together and too frequent and most people discover that they are medically dependent even tho you tried to avoid. It is a very hard thing not to do with benzos because they provide such profound relief and they do so quickly.

Other than drugs, the only other current options are learning naturally ways to relax. IOW, try to do naturally what the drug does but it can be extremely difficult to achieve this if your anxiety disorder is severe.

I personally have never found any of the OTC supplements effective and I have tried a lot of them. Physical Exercise, mediation, breathing, and biofeedback have been shown to enhance the parasympathetic autonomic nervous system and counteract the effects of an out of control sympathetic autonomic nervous system which all panic and anxiety sufferers have IMO. It also seems like once you have taken benzos, these manual, natural things become much harder to do and achieve satisfactory results. They do work but you must practice them religiously without fail and do them the remainder of your life.

Post edited by: LostInCyberspace12, at: 07/18/2012 02:11 PM

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07/18/2012 02:29 PM  Top
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Postscript: Some people never become tolerant to the anti-anxiety effects from benzos it seems. I have talked to people who have been on 5 mgs of valium for over 40 years and they claim the drug still works great. The problem is you don't know if you are going to be one of these lucky people. If you knew you could stay on just .5 mgs xanax/3 times a day and feel terrific for the remainder of your life, most people would do it I believe despite the addiction factor because as long as you take the drug, you are ok. If you decide to use benzos long-term to manage anxiety and you run into tolerance at some point, you then have a huge problem because your panic and anxiety will often return much worse than baseline before you took the drug and stopping benzos many ppl claim is much harder than quitting a drug like heroin, so you can end up really sick for a very long time. OTOH, panic disorder is a horrible disorder. It drives many people who are afraid to take drugs to drink excessively which is much worse than any Rx drug dependence IMO. It also drives some ppl to suicide because they can't stand the mental anguish anymore. If there were no tolerance issues with benzos, I would definitely take the drugs and take enough to provide around the clock protection for anxiety. I also prefer the longer half life benzos because you only have to take them once per day and not multiple times per day with benzos like ativan and xanax. It is a tough personal choice to make.
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07/18/2012 10:50 PM  Top
krissy20k
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Hi Lostincyberspace - thanks for the info!! I personally do not like taking meds. Oh yea they are highly effective, but like I mentioned I always feel worse once it wears off, and for a couple weeeks I took them all day long. I do think my body was becoming addicted! That is why I try not to take them anymore. I have panic and anxiety, I dont want to add addiction to it as well!

Funny you mentioned GERD. I have really been rhinking that is one issue that I may have. I am going to talk to my doctor about this. What tests to they give to find out if a person suffers from GERD? Does anyone know?


07/19/2012 01:28 AM  Top
LostInCyberspace12
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This is precisely why I don't like the meds either krissy. I have been on them for over 30 years and have grown pretty much immune to them. I am still on a small dose of valium because the withdrawal from not taking it is almost unbearable, but I am still trying so I know exactly all the emotions you feel about taking the xanax. You can really get caught between a rock and a hard place.

An ENT doctor DXed me with something called LPR which is like silent GERD from just looking down my throat with a flexible endoscope that he inserted through my nose to look down my throat. I was getting hoarse a lot and nothing physical could be found. They can also scope your upper GI tract and visually examine your esophagus and stomach but I did not have this done. I did have x-rays taken where they have you swallow a barium solution and then take x-rays. My ENT told me they could also do a 24-hour esophageal pH test but my GERD was mainly DX by my ENT and PCP by listening to me describe my SX's alone. Plus, I was put on prilosec and things cleared up so that pretty much confirmed the DX.

Post edited by: LostInCyberspace12, at: 07/19/2012 01:30 AM

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I am no doctor nor do I have any medical training. Anything I write is just my personal opinion from my personal experience that you may or may not find helpful. Health & Healing have many different paths. Find the one that is right for you and hopefully reclaim your health.
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07/19/2012 05:34 AM  Top
mem1189

I took XANAX for 4 weeks and it took me 26 months of horrid withdrawals to recover. I talk to a man everyday that took Ativan for 3 weeks and he is now 27 months and still in withdrawal

I will never touch another psyche drug


07/19/2012 06:27 AM  Top
krissy20k
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All1Spirit - I know that feeling! I had been only taking Xanax for four weeks as well, and the minute I didn't take it I was a mess. For some people it is great, I guess, but for others it is just not the answer. It is the exact reason I NEVER took anything all these years. My panic and anxiety has just been so bad recently that I decided to take it. I love the way it makes me feel when I am on it, but for me the after effects are not worth it!

WOW LostinCyberspace - your GERD symptoms sound exactly like mine. I tend to get hoarse a lot too. I was just thinking this the other day. I was actually wondering if it had something to do with GERD. For a while now, I have been thinking I might have GERD. I am going to go to my PCP today, and talk to him about it. I do know I tend to suffer from heart burn a lot, especially since I had my son 11 months ago. I though it was a pregnancy thing, but it just never went away!!

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