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03/10/2008 23:21
Darklite
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Iv been married for 5 yrs. The whole time Iv been married Iv had to deal with my husbands alcoholism. Its been a roller coaster nightmare...closet drinking, violent drinking, lying while hes drinking...you name it iv dealt with it. I keep giving him chances to get help..but it always goes back to the way it was before.

The last few months hes been telling me that hes only drinking non-alcoholic beer and I left him alone. Then on saturday I came home early from work and caught him drinking. So I found out that he was waiting till I left for work to start. Well when I found out..he flipped out!! took off and stayed drunk for 3 days at a friends house..he doesn't want to get help. when ever I try to talk to him about it he blames everything on me like theres nothing wrong with. He's staying at a friends house and this morning I started the paper work for a divorce. Im hurting really bad cause i want our marriage to work but I dont want to live in hell anymore!! I also have 2 kids and things are really hard..I dont know where im gonna go or what im gonna do but I feel like if he really doesn't want to get help then I have to go? Is this wrong? someone please help me I feel so lost!!

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03/11/2008 02:08
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Darklite, till a person is ready, willing and wants to get better they won't, and we have to take care of ourselves, it sounds like he ain't ready and you have made a very wise decision..

drunk or not, violent behavior is never to be tolerated..

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03/11/2008 10:46
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Dear Darklite,

Welcome and thank you for your post.

I encourage you to do two things.

First you might want to arm yourself with knowledge. The standard for that knowledge is a book entitled, Alcoholics Anonymous--available in most bookstores.

Second, please give others time to see your post and respond. In other words, keep coming back for a little while.

I'll try to find others in the forums with whom you might talk.

Below are some MDJ links you might want to explore. Don't worry if these links mention bipolar, because much of the behavior and many of the tools apply both to alcoholism/addiction and to bipolar.

It's just that MDJ didn't originally have an alcoholism support group, so some of the issues appear under "dual diagnosis" (alcoholism/addiction with bipolar).

Okay?

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/bipolar-support-forums/ tips/938-bipolar-or-addictedhelping-a-friend

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/bipolar-support-forums/ general-&-support/4394-support-or-enabling#4408

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/dual-diagnosis-discussions/ general-support/40842-dual-diagnosispsychosis

Thanks again.

Kindest regards,

Jim

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03/11/2008 11:10
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I have lived with someone who was battling addiction to alcohol along with other things. I was the youngest child and often found myself in my mom's warpath. They find ways to drink always until they are really able to face their addiction. And addiction has a way of pulling the whole family in. You all feed off of their problems and even start to use it as excuse for your wown unhealthy habits. It can just take control before you know it. It is a form of self medication, which means until he fixes or starts to work on the pains and problems then whether or not its alcohol he will find something to med. with. You have kids. This can tear their lives apart the older they get. He needs to face it now rather than later but just like you can lead a horse to water you can take him to whoever, until he is ready it won't help. They have to hit a rock bottom and realy know that there is nothing else they can do. My mom got help and to this day goes on drinking binges. It is a really hard addiction and it is so available. Non alcoholic beverages will not help. They keep him in that habit so when things get tuff he gets alcohol. It has to be a whole lifestyle change. Read up as much as you can cause there is no substitute for knowledge. I hope that anything I have said will help. You are more than welcome to contact me. Take care of yourself because you can't help anyone if you aren't ok. Be your own best ali.

Jenny

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03/11/2008 11:12
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Hi Darklite, I am an alcoholic and I can only tell you from my own perspective...until I was ready to stop drinking...no one could make me...some people have to hit rock bottom. Others, like myself got tired of waking up with a daily hangover. It just got old...
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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03/11/2008 17:34
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I ditto what Norma and Jenny had to say, Darklite.

How are you going to help someone who doesn't want help?

I lost everything, several times over, before I sought help. I straightened up each time, got along okay for awhile, but I kept doing what I always had done with my life. After every dry or straight period, I was "off again", and each time it got worse.

Finally I ended up in 2002, on my knees, crying in the middle of the night--stinking and alone. I couldn't get drunk and I was afraid to get sober. I didn't know how to live, but I didn't want to die. I cried, "God help me!"

The next day I got help..., because I asked for it!

That's the way it works with us. We'll sacrifice everything and everyone in our lives for our habit, until we become so desperate and alone that we have nothing left but our pain.

No human can take that pain away, and trying, ironically, only makes it worse. Not even God took my pain away, because pain brought me to my knees and to my senses! So why put it off?

Respectfully,

Jim

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03/11/2008 17:42
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Jim, I think that is the most heart-wrenching and honest thing I have ever read. Thank you for sharing it. Norma
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan




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03/11/2008 18:51
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I agree. It was really great for you to open up like that. If my mom could say something heartfelt I might could get how she does what she does. I understand why she does what she does I just don't get why she lies when she knows we know. Funny how addiction does.
"I don't mind living in a man's world as long as i can be a woman in it." Marilyn Monroe
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03/11/2008 19:24
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Dear Pixiedust, my father was an alcoholic...years ago in therapy I was told to read a book i believe it was "Children of Alcoholics". My poor kids had the misfortune of having lived some of their years with me drinking...I felt guilt for a long time...the guilt was crushing...unbearable...like a weight on my heart. By the grace of God we are past that now...one of the things in the book I remember is children of alcoholics don't know what normal is...that is so true...
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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03/11/2008 19:37
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I agree I didn't know what it was until I got married and we kind of started sharing our experiences. He just kind of sits there sad after I tell some of my most memorable times. I will try to find that book. I appreciate the advice always. I still need help with some of my frustations.

Jenny

"I don't mind living in a man's world as long as i can be a woman in it." Marilyn Monroe
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