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02/02/2008 20:25
Pannie
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Hi....my name is Michele and my fiance is a herion addict. WOW I finally said that out loud for the first time in 6 months. He started snorting and turned to the needle. He was so out of control, and continued to lie about EVERYTHING. I knew it was bad, and he continued to lie and become more distant. Finally we talked about rehab...then one night he was so high he was scared he was going to OD. He says he has stopped using and things are better....but my question is.....When do you start trusting your own better judgement?!?! I know things are good "right now", but I am ALWAYS second guessing him, and questioning him and he gets mad...thinking I should "just trust" him and his word. I am afraid to trust him and afraid not to trust him. This is so surreal to me, and I don't know all the in's and out's of drug use, or what to expect. I want to trust and rebuild, but I question everything. Do I take a stand and insist he goes to some sort of addiction specialist? Do I try to trust him and believe he is clean?

Any advise anyone has would be awesome right about now.

Thanks for listening!

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02/03/2008 17:57
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its up to you my xs poision was H and it is very hard to hide it 1 it cost a lot of money i always drank and it is very easy to hide that way 1 thing that is not or the behaviors that go along with addiction and sickness in the morning is a dead give away i dont know how much you know about H but if you love this person you are in for a serius ride some examples i would stay up and watch my loved one breath scared she would stop because of overdose i worked 2 sometimes 3 jobs to help her pay for it our son was taken away by his grandfather those or just a few i mean i was no better because i was drinking heavly the whole time to ansewer your qustion it is very hard to hide Haddiction if you live with the person another question is if you or not married with kids really realy think about it it is a very hard thing to kick me and mine or split know but it was a ride 2 years of meth treatments and she still has a problem with pain pills no H she says i dont know my son is 18 and i do have a relationship with says she is doing much better 8 years latter.i am very glad for her

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02/18/2008 18:39
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Hi Pannie, I am sorry you are going through this. My husband is an ex heroin addict (before we met). He was upfront with me with his addiction problems, and a part of me always new that his addiction would become active again, it was just a matter of when. He has been using crystal meth for the past 2 years. I knew he would replase, i just didn't think it would be this soon.

Anyways, what you are feeling is very normal. You want to watch every move he makes to see if he is getting drugs. You pay extra attention to what he says to see if he lies.

I did the same thing. I gave up my own life and sanity to monitor him. It destroyed my soul and nearly our marriage. Eventhough you really cannot trust an addict, you have to understand that they are an individual capable of making their own decisions. You are not keeper, but his fiance.

I never know when my husband is high either, and it is very distrurbing. Listening to your instinct, it is usually right. If he is high get out of the house, go somewhere else. You must change your behaivor to show that you will not tolerate the drug use. (ie: remove yourself from the situation if he is high, if he has used the rent money for drugs, don't cover for his bill. If he is out at friends and can't drive home because he is high, leave him there). These are all very hard steps to take, but it is called tough love. The goal is to make using drugs as uncomfortable as possible for the addict.

I imagine that you want everything to be "normal", You want to trust him, love him, take care of him. When you are in love with addict (either in recovery or active addiction) the drug becomes part of the family and will be always knocking on the door. Whether or not the addict answers the door, we have no control over. But we cannot let it rule our lives.

Focus on yourself right now. Heal yourself. Join a support group. There are many resources available for those whose famliies are affected by addiction.

Please let me know if I can help you in any way

AMy



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02/18/2008 19:17
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Thanks Amy it is good to know that all my feelings I feel are "normal". He told me today, after he admitted to shooting up again last night that he would do whatever it takes to get his life back. I sooooo wish I believed him. He won't make the first move to get the help....he wants me to do all the work for him. Part of me wants to get all the resources together for him so he "can't say no" and part wants me to hand him the phone numbers and websites I researched and say....Here you go...sink or swim. Then the "I'm still very much in love with this man" sets in and I just can't seem to let him fall on his face without me doing EVERYTHING I can possibly do to help him. I definitely understand what you said about giving up your own life for him. I feel like the last 6 months I have lost everything connection to the world except for him. I don't go out and see my friends like I used to, and I am so on edge at the house. My daughter knows something is going on, and his son knows as well when he comes to stay. They both say...Daddy sleeps ALL the time. This is the man who was first in line to take them places and go and do things with and for them...and now he just exists. I want the man I fell so madly in love BACK!
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02/21/2008 10:24
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well since i just wrote a long ramble and my computer went on the blink and i lost it i will say that i'm very sorry you have to go thru this. my bf to is an addict/alcoholic who suffers with bipoar. i found it very comforting to come here and speak with others like me. I hope you find the same. Remember you can't help him if he doesnt want to help himself.

Keep your head up

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03/10/2008 22:40
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Sorry I took so long to get back to you! I have been denying my own situation. Haha. at least your partner is nice enough to tell you when he is using.. i get to guess all the time. You will hear over and over and over again that he wants to get help.. get better.. etc etc etc. YOu will believe him the first few times.. and then no.. you will loose hope. This can be.. very. frustrating. Always have hope.. but have hope for yourself and your recovery. That is what it is important to focus on

I am going to a family support group, and they outlined what is called the systems of change model. it describes where the addict is in the cycle, I will give you a summary

1. Precontimplative: they do not know they have a problem

2. Contempative: They are becoming more aware of the problem but can slip easily back into denial

3. Action: This is the stage were they take action to help themselves

4. Maitenance: sober living but with difficulty

5.Termination: sober living seems normal

I totally udnerstand why you gathered all the info and what not, I did it to. I learnt somethign somewhat interseting in one of my meetings. The counsellors said that the ADDICT has to be the one to take those steps. If you push it to much on them.. they can go back to earlier stages. the addiction is there problem.. so they find the solutions.

I am unsure what is means that your partner wants you to do the work. He may just be lazy.. or a form of procrastination becaues you are already a busy women

It is hard to let go of a loved one, especially when they are mentally unwell. You have said that you have trouble with the concept of him "falling on his face" I totally understand because as humans it is our nature to care for those we love. The problem is, it allows the addict to keep using in a comfortable environment.

When we let the addict experience every single horrible consequence of his using, his environment will become uncomfortable.. and thats when they start to seriously think about getting help.

It is a very difficult thing to put into practice. I would suggest reading books on enabling, detatchemnt and Melody Beattie's Codependent No More.

You really can't do anything else for him except allow him to feel his pain. It is very important right now to focus on you and your children. Your happiness, peace, sanity, and feelings come first. Do not sit around and wait for your addict. get out and live the life you deserve!!

Take Care, you are doing great!

Amy

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