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06/03/2008 10:27
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Hi, I am a mother of three kids, and I just discovered that for the second time in our marriage my husband is using cocaine, heroin, and crack and sometimes prescription pain pills.It hasn't gotten to the point of stealing or using on a daily basis, but the lies and the deception about all of this is killing me.We went thru this back six months ago, he promosed me he wouldn't touch this stuff anymore, he told me he could do it on his own, and I beleived him.Now, he's doing it all over again.I feel so hurt, and betrayed and angry that he would do this to us.I can't trust him at all, how can I live like this?I had to make a choice and I made him leave.He claims he will do whatever it takes and he admits he needs help.I don't have any faith anymore....I don't even have faith in rehab...He has lied so much Does anyone feel like I feel??
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06/03/2008 10:39
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You made the right decsion in telling him to leave. The feelings you describe are exactly what people who are involved with an addict feel like. It takes an amazing amount of strenght to kick him out - often getting people to see that is what they have to do is nearly impossible because they have so much denial. So that shows how incredibly strong you are. You have a responsibilty to yourself and your children. It is hard, but the truth is you can't help him. His recovery is between him and god. And, as hard as it is you need to let go of the outcome. Addicts can SAY anything, what they actually DO is what matters. So far he hasn't proven anything except that he can lie. And for the little parts that you know - I am sure there is a whole bunch of stuff you don't. That is the nature of addiction.

In AA they say, no relationships for at least your first year. lol. I know you are in one but if you can look at it like it's the best thing you can do for him right now is to walk away from him - it would make your decsions easier.

If he knows he needs help, then he better get some. That is not your responsibility. And it rarely works if people are forced into anything. He knows you, and unfortunately what it takes to manipulate you. I have been sober for ten years. When I was drinking, I knew what I could get away with and what I couldn't in order to keep using.

It wasn't until I had lost everything, and everyone that mattered that I was forced to sit down and take a long hard look at myself. It was then I got help and sober. People had tried to get me sober for years prior to that. They enabled me actually.

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06/03/2008 11:01
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Thanks so much for the advice, no one in my family or circle of friends understands..they've never had to deal with anything like this.What do I do about all this love and concern I have for him?what do I do about moving on without him?Is this the end??

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06/03/2008 16:48
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This is the end. It just isn't safe. He is not safe and in the midst of addiction people are literally capable of anything. Why risk it? Love and concern are weapons that can be used against you. I know it seems harsh but I wouldn't go near him unless he had a full year of sobriety. There is no way I would let him around my kids either. To be honest, you have been alone already for a long time without even knowing it. You will make it. I strongly, strongly suggest Alanon meetings. You will find support there, and make friends with people who are going through the exact same thing as you. You are already way ahead of most people in your situation. I can't express enough how well you are doing. Meaning too or not. You will be fine. Get to an Alanon meeting!!
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06/03/2008 22:32
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Hi amee, bejeweled is right about alot of things. You did make the right decision. You and your children come first and need to be safe. Addicts are capable of anything and it can be very dangerous for all of you.

He has got to wnat recovery more than anything. He has to see it as a life or death situation to get the help he needs and to continue to stay in recovery. Most people don't stop without having negative consequences for their behavior. They have to hit their own personal "bottom." For some it is losing everything and for others just the thought of losing family will get them to WANT HELP. I didn't lose everything. I made the decision to get help because I was hurting myself and my family too much. I made a promise to my children that if I used, drank, or gambled again, that I would go into treatment. I was leaving 2 weeks later. I went to an inpatient treatment program which was the begining of a new life for me. I also go to AA and GA. I would recommend going to Ala-Anon or Nar-Anon. When someone in the family has an addiction, the whole family is affected.

I hope that you don't sit and worry if it is the end or not.....take things ONE DAY AT A TIME!!!! You never know what might happen. I do think that he needs to have proven himself and that he does what he says he is going to....WORDS WITHOUT ACTION ARE DEAD...Don't go back with him until he has alot of recovery time. If you do want him in your life, get involved with recovery His and Yours.

I hope things get better for you. You can PM me anytime.

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06/04/2008 19:44
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Thanks so much for the advice and thoughtful words of encouragement. I wake up in the morning and think how am I going to get thru this day?? I'm not trying to sound like a victim, but I'm really having a hard time dealing with this.I have lost all my faith in him, and I truly don't know if I even have faith in rehab.He is supposedly checking into rehab in two days. Don't know how long he'll be there yet, but I'm trying to stay away from him and not have any contact with him.It's hard because I love him so and I feel this is so unfair.I miss him, but yet I know I can't be with him when he has this problem.He does it to cope with his problems, and that's not acceptable.He'll have a good week or so, and not do anything, but then the next week he'll do cocaine, presc. pain pills, and sometimes even crack or heroin.He's admitted he has a problem and all he's done since this unfolded is cry when he talks to me.He claims he wants to do this for his kids, he doesn't want their dad to be on drugs.He knows what he's doing is wrong, but he needs help to stop.I really don't see how we could ever be the same again, the trust is destroyed, the lies and betrayal I can't forget.How do I know six months down the road, he won't relapse because he can't deal with something??This is really hard....I'm so sad and angry
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06/05/2008 15:02
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It is ok to grieve what was. There is nothing wrong with that. I hope that you will go to Alanon. Make some friends with people that are going thru the same thing. I can't stress enough how much this will help you. It is very lonely to be where you are right now, at the crossroads. There are a lot of people (including me) that have been there, made the tough decsions and come out better for it. You will be ok too.
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06/05/2008 21:58
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Hi Amee, You are welcome. I hope that you're able to find a group near your home so you can get some support. Make friends and see that you're not alone in how you feel.

You said that you're afraid of what might happen months down the road....that he might relapse. Please try not to look to far down the road. What if he goes into treatment and never uses again? You cann't predict what is going to happen. You have to take it One day at a time. He is going into treatment....that is a good thing. He is getting help. Wait to see what happens before you make any more big decisions. Concentrate on yourself and your children. Get yourself healthy by going to Ala-non meeting or something. You and your children are safe from him right now. He is getting help. Who knows how this will turn out. Give yourself time to heal from his abusive ways while using. Meetings can help you do that. You may want to go to therapy or something.

I know that you are hurting right now and have every reason to be. It is still new and the wounds are fresh from having this happen. Give yourself time. Go to family day at his rehab so you can tell him how much this hurt you and the kids. Get the feelings out so you can begin to heal.

We are here if you need anything.

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06/07/2008 11:48
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Thanks so much for your advice, I feel so alone right now,although I have lots of family and friends.They are just telling me what I need to do as far as taking care of financial responsibilities and being the responsible mom I need to be.No one talks to me about the emotional side of all this, the fact that I have lost my husband to this, and how much he has hurt me. I don't think they grasp how much I miss him, even though this has happened, I still love him, you know?

What did u do when this happened to you? what were the steps you took? Did you still love this person and want thim in your life, or did you just want them to stay away from you? Were you supportive to this person and let them know you were there for them, or were you angry and basically told them they were on their own and you wanted nothing to do with them anymore? I'm so torn, I'm angry as angry can get, I feel so betrayed and mad at the fact that this was done to our family, but at the same time, I miss him so bad, and I want to see him get better and come back home. I want my old husband back, the one before all this happened. I just don't know what to do with the emotional aspect of it.I have looked into groups and they are calling me back with the information.

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06/07/2008 18:50
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Hi Amee, How are you? Here is what happened with my situation.

I was in a long term relationship and we had just had a child. Both of us had stopped drinking for 5 years and I thought all was well between us. NOT!!! He started drinking shortly after the baby was born. We tried to work it out but he wasn't interested in getting help. After many months of wondering what he was doing and crying myself to sleep, I had to let him go....for me and my children. I still loved him alot and really hoped that he would get help and come back to me. Well, he did come back, and wanted to work through it. He was using drugs and drinking. I just couldn't go through that, so I didn't let him come back into my home. I was tired of being verbally and emotionally abused. I didn't want my children to grow up around the fighting or think it was ok to drink and do drugs. It wasn't easy. I had many nights where I just wanted him to be the loving man he was when we met. I would fantasize about it. Then I remembered that he wasn't capable of that anymore. Addiction had taken over his life. He had to want to get help and he had to do the work. I had offered treatment places for him to go, gave him pamphlets, and called counselors. He didn't want it.

He is now in jail and has had his 4th DWI along with drug charges and terroristic threats. He beat up his girlfriend. That could have been me or one of my children. I'm so thankful I was smart enough to get him out of my house and out of my life.

As far as your husband goes, is he interested in going to treatment? Has he made any plans to go? Would he be willing to get help?

I'm so glad you're getting information about meetings. You will be surprised at how much they help. I went to counseling to learn how to love myself, to find healthy relationships, and to work through my feelings.

What you're going through is normal. You love this man. He hurt you terribly. He broke up your family. He didn't do his part in the relationship. You're left to pick up the pieces and put your family back together again. It's a difficult spot to be in. You're not alone.

I'm here if you need to talk.

Your Friend, Chris
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