|Nov 23 2011|
[quote]hot water therapy for Lyme by TOM GRIER
[b]The man who really [u]researched hyperthermia treatment with Borrelia burgdorferi was Art Dukty[/u] and muchof his information was based on the success that[u] Dr Herman Bundeson (Chicago 1942) had with treating Syphilis with whole body steam cabinets. [/b][/u]
(Read "Life Among the Doctors" by Paul DeKruif)
The fact that Borrelia spirochetes and Treponeme spirochetes are susceptible to heat (heat labile) [b]has led to some success with treatment of relapsing Lyme. [/b]
In the early 1990s, [u]Dr. Willy Burgdorfer (Rocky Mt Labs, NIH)[/u] did a very preliminary study suggesting that Borrelia burgdorferi could not survive temperatures above 108 F for more than 20 minutes.
[b]But proper time and temperature studies either in the lab or in humans [u]has never been done,[/u] so we work on assumptions.[/b]
[b]We cannot get the whole body up to 108 F for long without risking death and brain damage,[/b] but we can get skin temperature to those temperatures and times and [b]we think dormant Borrelia can hide within skin cells (intracellular in fibroblasts). [/b]
The benefit of hyperthermia treatment is that killing any bacteria helps decrease the infection load, killing dormant bacteria lessens the potential for relapse, and the dead bacteria sometimes stimulated the immune system to once again produce antibodies, [b]which means Lyme tests have a better chance of being positive after several weeks of hyperthermia. [/b]
The advantage of [b]hyperthermia treatment while on antibiotics is even better.[/b]
Based on the work done by Dr Herman Bundeson MD; he found that penicillin got into the brains of tertiary Syphilis patients 3x better when getting the body's core temperature to 102F, [b]also the dilation of vessels means better drug penetration into joints during heat sessions. [/b]
The net result, Dr Bundeson reported was that he had almost no treatment failures with penicillin in tertiary Syphilis if he added his regimen of Heat treatments.
His heat treatments were severe:
[b]Three times a week for two weeks, a patient must remain in a Steam Cabinet for 8 hours at a stretch maintaining core body temperature of 102F.
(He used a [u]rectal thermometer [/u]that was read on a gauge on the outside of the steam cabinet).
So a patient had a [u]total of 24 hours of heat treatment in a week times two weeks. [/u]
Relapse rate for tertiary Syphilis was about [u]25 % with heat alone and about 12 % for Penicillin alone and about 4 % for combined. [/b] [/u]
Lyme may take longer than two weeks and higher temperatures and almost certainly should be combined with antibiotics.
[b]I did this for 3 months but had trouble finding hot tubs at high enough temps until I installed my own, and [u]found I had poor tolerance of heat. This is pretty typical of Lymeies.[/b] [/u]
[b][u]The combination of roxrithromyacin 300 mg BID with Bactrim DS and Hot tubbing,[/u] I think had the greatest impact on my recovery.
Later I did[u] metronidizole and heat for 6 weeks. [/b][/u] I hope this helps?
fyi, tom grier has asked me to post his comments for him. ;)
bettyg, leader, iowa activist, llmd coordinator [/quote]
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